NotThePars Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Detournement said: Compare and contrast with the huge crowds at the demos this weekend. Starmer was talking about reaching out to people beyond the party faithful and gave a talk to like 56 people this morning on a Progress Zoom call. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 You could probably count the members of the public on one hand there, it'll be made up of MP's, maybe a journo or 2, spads and weirdos like Luke Akehurst and Weetman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: You could probably count the members of the public on one hand there, it'll be made up of MP's, maybe a journo or 2, spads and weirdos like Luke Akehurst and Weetman. Akehurst was busy jacking it over the IDF Twitter feed and couldn't join the meeting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: Akehurst was busy jacking it over the IDF Twitter feed and couldn't join the meeting. No surprises really, was he not named in the undercover documentary with Joan Ryan ? He's a fucking weirdo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 A repellent looking slug anaw. Just a deeply ugly man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Detournement said: Akehurst was busy jacking it over the IDF Twitter feed and couldn't join the meeting. 11 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: No surprises really, was he not named in the undercover documentary with Joan Ryan ? He's a fucking weirdo. 9 hours ago, NotThePars said: A repellent looking slug anaw. Just a deeply ugly man. Lol 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) I try not to pay too much attention opinion polls, but the one referred to in this article ought to send shivers up and down the spine of those who think that the UK will turn to the Labour Party to save us all from the Tories - https://www.thenational.scot/news/19306065.snp-win-10-seats-tories-win-majority-labour-general-election/ The poll found that the SNP would win all but one Scottish Seat, and the Tories would once again pull Labour's underpants up and over their heads with a Commons majority of 122. "The survey of 14,000 people carried out after the local and regional elections across the UK, found the party would take its number of MPs from 46 to 58 – leaving just a single Scottish MP who is not from the SNP." And "The results showed the Tories would secure a 122-seat landslide majority, up from 81 today, over Labour and win 23 more “red wall” seats in the Midlands and the North of England" So getting back to the question in the thread title, it seems to me that the answer is "to be a 'pinada' for the Tories". Edited May 17, 2021 by Salt n Vinegar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I try not to pay too much attention opinion polls, but the one referred to in this article ought to send shivers up and down the spine of those who think that the UK will turn to the Labour Party to save us all from the Tories - https://www.thenational.scot/news/19306065.snp-win-10-seats-tories-win-majority-labour-general-election/ The poll found that the SNP would win all but one Scottish Seat, and the Tories would once again pull Labour's underpants up and over their heads with a Commons majority of 122. "The survey of 14,000 people carried out after the local and regional elections across the UK, found the party would take its number of MPs from 46 to 58 – leaving just a single Scottish MP who is not from the SNP." And "The results showed the Tories would secure a 122-seat landslide majority, up from 81 today, over Labour and win 23 more “red wall” seats in the Midlands and the North of England" So getting back to the question in the thread title, it seems to me that the answer is "to be a 'pinada' for the Tories". Sadly, that is an excellent metaphor. To digress, what were the parents of the previously mentioned Councillor Peacock thinking when naming him? P Peacock might easily lead to infantile taunts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Something that comes across from many Labour candidates is an arrogant expectation that folk should be voting for them or the Tories. If folk don't it has to be about Labour and not the other party. For example, SNP voters are all just Labour voters who are protesting Labour. It's very much a similar attitude to "aye, but who do you really support?!". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Sadly, that is an excellent metaphor. To digress, what were the parents of the previously mentioned Councillor Peacock thinking when naming him? P Peacock might easily lead to infantile taunts. We had an officer at my old nick with that surname. Much hilarity when he got promoted to Senior Officer, and then Principal Officer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Thane of Cawdor said: Sadly, that is an excellent metaphor. To digress, what were the parents of the previously mentioned Councillor Peacock thinking when naming him? P Peacock might easily lead to infantile taunts. The seemingly forgotten Scottish Labour politician Peter Peacock MSP was Minister of Education at Holyrood from 2003 to 2005. Probably because he was a Scottish Labour politician is why he's been forgotten! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Sir Keir has an idea! "Modernise". Again. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-labour-mps-modernise-b1849025.html Coming soon "New Labour 2 - the sequel - Tony 2 and the moderate menace". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 17/05/2021 at 09:42, Pato said: A MeToo/YewTree candidate if ever there was one #YewToo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: #YewToo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: There's a guy who could sort out Labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, NotThePars said: There's a guy who could sort out Labour. And they'd still end up electing Mew to be leader... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Watching some of the tony benn and Dennis Skinner clips from the 70s and 80s. Superb stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I think there is something intangible missing from Labour these days, and it's energy. Nobody is enthusiastic about Labour. In the past they've had the Trade Union movement and New Labour provide the energy, but that all drained away years ago. Corbyn brought some energy back, but only amongst his fanbase. Who really is sitting up at night counting the days till a Starmer government? If IndyRef 2 happened tomorrow, could Labour really try to say to folk that a Labour government will be along shorty, so stay with the UK for solidarity? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 hours ago, scottsdad said: I think there is something intangible missing from Labour these days, and it's energy. Nobody is enthusiastic about Labour. In the past they've had the Trade Union movement and New Labour provide the energy, but that all drained away years ago. Corbyn brought some energy back, but only amongst his fanbase. Who really is sitting up at night counting the days till a Starmer government? If IndyRef 2 happened tomorrow, could Labour really try to say to folk that a Labour government will be along shorty, so stay with the UK for solidarity? Sadly Labour voters in Scotland are no more than Tory enablers at a U.K. level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 ‘It’s confidential’: Shadow minister refuses to say what Labour stands for | The Independent This made me laugh. No wonder no-one knows what they stand for. it's a big secret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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