What is the point of Labour ?

[G51]

Sienna Rodgers reporting that Labour sources are telling her they've had an "atrocious" day in Sunderland.

Remember that these c***s deliberately undermined the 2017 and 2019 election campaigns. Get it right fucking up them.

Edited May 6, 2021 by G51

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Reports that Labour are having a shocker everywhere except for Andy Burnham in Manchester.

[G51]

 

keith

[DeeTillEhDeh]

This is what happens when you try to be Tory lite and pander to fucking bigots.

If Labour do as badly as some are saying you would genuinely have to think that Starmer is a goner.

[Salt n Vinegar]

9 minutes ago, G51 said:

 

keith

I've been offline for a couple of hours but if that is true Starmer should be hunted down with burning torches and pitchforks. 

[DukDukGoose]

32 minutes ago, G51 said:

 

keith

Love some of the replies.

"Maybe he didn't get a chance to look at it."

He's been posting about it for the past year 

[GordonS]

37 minutes ago, G51 said:

 

keith

That's unbelievable. There's no doubt that the vast majority of the public would want fire & rehire banned. What possible upside could there be for Starmer? 

They really shouldn't be allowed to call themselves Labour any more.

[Glen Sannox]

37 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

This is what happens when you try to be Tory lite and pander to fucking bigots.

If Labour do as badly as some are saying you would genuinely have to think that Starmer is a goner.
 

I know, but they tried the “1970’s Corbyn type Labour” and it was a disaster also. Labour are in a dreadful place. Either pander to all these trade union lunatics, or try and make themselves “electable” with a Blair type approach! No win situation.

[GordonS]

Just now, Glen Sannox said:

I know, but they tried the “1970’s Corbyn type Labour” and it was a disaster also. Labour are in a dreadful place. Either pander to all these trade union lunatics, or try and make themselves “electable” with a Blair type approach! No win situation.

Labour's woes have literally nothing to do with their industrial and employment policies.

[Saltire]

Well now I am confused! How does a third placed party deliver a national recovery in a collective mission if it won't work with anyone else? 

 

[Glen Sannox]

9 minutes ago, GordonS said:

Labour's woes have literally nothing to do with their industrial and employment policies.

Literally nothing you say. I would disagree with that. 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

The leadership and the PLP are a bunch of self serving arseholes, more worried about using their positions to launch into other roles with bookmakers, pay day lenders and such. Self important careerists more interested in appeasing a handful of pseudo Tory wealthy donors than advocating for the transformative change that millions in this country need. Absolutely nothing but contempt for these sneering hypocrites who consistently throw tantrums everytime they don't get their way.

[G51]

One of Labours problems is that the modern day divide is less about the North and the South (though that divide definitely still exists), and more about homeowners vs renters.

Places in the "Red Wall" have a huge number of homeowners. These places aren't safe Labour seats because Labour no longer aligns with their economic interests.

Safe Labour seats are in the cities these days.

[Salt n Vinegar]

Seriously, if Labour's collective arse gets tanned in England tonight any non-Indy vote in Scotland last night was effectively a "Boris - come in and shag Scotland" vote. Shame on every one of them. 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Absolutely. The media would have you think that the red wall is all boys in flat caps turning Tory. The reality is that it it's a pretty large number of pensioners and, homeowners and business owners with two cars being described as working class, while young renters on shit wages in London are the metropolitan elite.

Just another day on normal island tbh.

[GordonS]

16 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

Literally nothing you say. I would disagree with that. 

That's because it suits your political opinions, but there's nothing in the research to support it. In fact, a lack of support for workers is one of the things that has harmed them. Lower paid workers, especially in traditional working class areas, believe Labour cares much more about social and identity issues than economic issues that matter to them.

[Ivo den Bieman]

Hartlepool has had a Labour MP since 1964.

The Labour hopeful is already feeling like a Hartlepool goalkeeper during a cup-tie at the Etihad, I suspect

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Met the Labour party at a charity do once, they were surprisingly down to earth and very funny.

 

[Antlion]

5 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Met the Labour party at a charity do once, they were surprisingly down to earth and very funny.

 

Well I didn’t know there was an area of Northumberland which sounded like a 1930s female aviator.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

1 minute ago, Antlion said:

Well I didn’t know there was an area of Northumberland which sounded like a 1930s female aviator.

I think there's a place in Aberdeen with the same name.

Must have been some girl.