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Douglass Ross and Ruth Davidson have both done the "As a parent of a child" thing in pointed reference to Sturgeon, and it seems Sarwar is doing the same to try to depict himself as on the same side as all parents. I don't think it will work (didn't when Tories tried it) and think this thread is a good summary of why we should ask him questions about his values regarding education.
 
 


His transgression has been exagerated

Okay Hutchison’s is a fee paying school but it’s not as posh as the ones Richard Leonard or Jeremy Corbyn went to.

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13 hours ago, NotThePars said:

I got admonished during the last leadership election by our CLP secretary for saying that Sarwar being a millionaire slum lord would make him a laughing stock every time he tried to attack the SNP from the left 

To be fair, complete cognitive dissonance surrounding what you say and what you actually do must be high on the list of requirements for membership of the Labour Party?

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I think coming from a minority complicates the private school discussion somewhat as I can understand why people from BAME backgrounds feel like they have to level the playing field by any means possible but at the same time Sarwar’s kids must be like third generation at a minimum and come from a fucking loaded family lol.

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1 hour ago, MixuFruit said:

Haha. I have mixed feelings about privately educated folk who have turned against the system. On one hand it's good they are able to see lucidly that it's an awful system that needs bulldozed. On the other hand they should realise they've reached a position of influence at least partly due to the edge their education has provided.

Folk who spout socialism then put their kids in swank schools should be pitilessly attacked though.

Naturally, Corbyn and co were awful for that.

I saw a poll on Twitter today re voting intentions and saw Labour amazingly with an increase, I'm not sure this is post Leonard or not, also showed the SNP going downwards, I'm certain it will already be posted somewhere here knowing the forums attention to such things. 

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Just now, MixuFruit said:

Didn't Corbyn and his first wife divorce in part over schooling their kids? She wanted to send them private and he wanted them to go to a comprehensive?

Diane Abbott deserves criticism for double standards on this but I don't think Corbyn does.

I can't imagine that being the actual reason but that was reported  

It was more aimed at the front bench MPs and shadow cabinet at the time, Abbot was one of a gang. 

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6 hours ago, NotThePars said:

I think coming from a minority complicates the private school discussion somewhat as I can understand why people from BAME backgrounds feel like they have to level the playing field by any means possible but at the same time Sarwar’s kids must be like third generation at a minimum and come from a fucking loaded family lol.

I suppose this is the absolute crux of the matter though. You could argue that people from minority groups should understand more than anyone why uneven playing fields are a damaging thing. Seeking to balance out inequality of opportunity in a way that benefits yourself is a fundamentally different principle to reducing inequality uniformly. Whilst I do have some sympathy for the former position, I still think it's part of the problem.

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Starmer's office now have a veto over every single potential candidate before they even get in front of a CLP.

Starmer's job isn't to win the next election it's to completely neuter the Labour Party so it never goes against NATO policy again. Corbyn is obviously beyond the pale but even  Ed Milliband blocking an escalation of the war on Syria will never be allowed to happen again. 

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