Granny Danger Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, DrewDon said: I thought The Newsroom was saccharine shite. You’re entitled to your opinion, even if it is pish. That’s democracy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 This wee diversion is relevant to the point of Labour because Labour staffer types are obsessed by the West Wing, and it doesn't do them any good.I think the ww inspired a lot of people - discussed particularly in relation to the Obama effect.I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. That idealised version of public service is a noble one.My issue with the labour centrists is that they're not doing this for the good of public service - because they don't actually want to change anything. I think they just like being in charge for the sake for it, and creaming off enough for themselves (the new labour mob were full of these c***s, and their brand is politics can't really be compared to sorkin's ideals). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: You’re entitled to your opinion, even if it is pish. That’s democracy. There aren't opinions anymore. Just FACT. Everybody is convinced by their own bullshit. It's a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Andy Burnham actually coming across with some authenticity here. It's like he means what he says it something. He regularly comes across like this.The way he responded to the Hillsborough enquiry calls was very impressive back in the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, DrewDon said: I thought The Newsroom was saccharine shite. 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: You’re entitled to your opinion, even if it is pish. That’s democracy. Can't imagine where Drew got this take from 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 That scene ALWAYS comes up. Rightly too. I enjoyed that show for the most part but hooooly shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Can't imagine where Drew got this take from Yeah, that was the scene that finally did it for me. Absolutely gone at the handshake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I enjoyed the West Wing but it's pretty tough to argue parts of it weren't unintentionally vomit-inducingly cringey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The opening scene of the show was excellent, as was their handling of the gabby giffords shooting.Fully agree that the bin laden stuff went too far. But it had some good bits overall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Can't imagine where Drew got this take from Fucking hell, think I'd got bored of it by that stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, pandarilla said: He regularly comes across like this. The way he responded to the Hillsborough enquiry calls was very impressive back in the day. He's a very prolific actor. Keir Starmer could learn a thing or two from him on how to at least act slightly less right wing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, DrewDon said: Yeah, that was the scene that finally did it for me. Absolutely gone at the handshake. Judging a show based on one or two scenes is like judging your team based on one or two performances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Judging a show based on one or two scenes is like judging your team based on one or two performances.He's not judging it on one or two scenes you old fanny. He's watched it from the beginning, and that was the scene (which wasn't early on in the series) he's finally came to his judgment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: 29 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Judging a show based on one or two scenes is like judging your team based on one or two performances. He's not judging it on one or two scenes you old fanny. He's watched it from the beginning, and that was the scene (which wasn't early on in the series) he's finally came to his judgment. Aggressive for a wimp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, DrewDon said: Yeah, that was the scene that finally did it for me. Absolutely gone at the handshake. I don't mind that scene, the killing of Bin Laden was very cathartic for a lot of Americans. Remember the celebrations in New York that night? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, pandarilla said: He's not judging it on one or two scenes you old fanny. He's watched it from the beginning, and that was the scene (which wasn't early on in the series) he's finally came to his judgment. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Aggressive for a wimp.[emoji6]I have my moments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Sir Keith's inaction making Andy Burnham look like Fidel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, GordonS said: I don't mind that scene, the killing of Bin Laden was very cathartic for a lot of Americans. Remember the celebrations in New York that night? You aren't getting mixed up with Trump's fabled Muslims dancing in New Jersey on 9/11? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Aye fair play to Burnham he's done well here. This is me for the next 48 hours 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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