vikingTON Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Falcor Roar said: Am I right in thinking that there will not be a by-election for these 7 seats? How is that fair? People voted for the Labour party in those areas. No they didn't because that's not how the Westminster electoral system works. If they were resigning while holding a party list seat in the Scottish or European parliaments then there would be an issue of fairness - in the 'greatest democracy in the world' you vote for the donkey and not the colour of its rosette. Edited February 18, 2019 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Indeed. And no wonder the Labour Party are a mess when you consider where that individual is now. He was leader of the Labour Party at the last GE. That was the election that May thought she was going to be returned with a huge majority but ended up losing her majority and leading a minority government. Are you aware of this or has it escaped your attention? Edited February 18, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, zidane's child said: Will she f**k. I reside in Liverpool and close to her Wavertree constituency and like Granny said, she’s out of touch with the people who put her there. Also, she’s anti Corbyn in an area where Corbyn is the Messiah. She should have toed the line. All 7 should be made to face by elections but they care about their 70 grand a year too much. And she should really be playing the role of matriarch of the Adams Family rather than a Socialist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Until Jeremy Corbyn was made leader, I had no idea there was a Labour Party and a Parliamentary Labour Party. However many years later I'm still not sure of the point, or the system. The Labour Party wants this guy to lead us! But the Parliamentary Labour Party say he he's shit. We'll say again, the Labour Party want this guy to lead us! But the Parliamentary Labour Party (the Labour Party people that are in Parliament?) think he's shit. It's like trying to make your legs walk in different directions at the same time. Maybe they should take a leaf out of Ross Thomson's book... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: He was leader of the Labour Party at the last GE. That was the election that May thought she was going to be returned with a huge majority but ended up leading a minority government. Are you aware of this or has it escaped your attention. Looking back, I suspect that may have been blip, with many voting for Labour under the false assumption that they were actually opposed to Brexit. If there was a GE tomorrow I'd hazard a guess that the Tories would romp home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I disagree with that. They would still need to be in a political party and one that would get them into Parliament. We're dealing with a new generation here who are quite happy to pimp themselves around any, and in some cases every, political party in the hope of getting elected. They have no ideals or principles and are basically careerists in the simplest of terms. It's pretty depressing actually........... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Looking back, I suspect that may have been blip, with many voting for Labour under the false assumption that they were actually opposed to Brexit. If there was a GE tomorrow I'd hazard a guess that the Tories would romp home. So you think people voted Labour because they want opposition to Brexit but in an election will vote for the Tories who are far more pro Brexit? I’m struggling to understand your logic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Looking back, I suspect that may have been blip, with many voting for Labour under the false assumption that they were actually opposed to Brexit. If there was a GE tomorrow I'd hazard a guess that the Tories would romp home. I think that was the same approach that May adopted prior to the last General Election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, WATTOO said: We're dealing with a new generation here who are quite happy to pimp themselves around any, and in some cases every, political party in the hope of getting elected. They have no ideals or principles and are basically careerists in the simplest of terms. It's pretty depressing actually........... Unprincipled career politicians are not a new phenomena. They’ve been around for decades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: He was leader of the Labour Party at the last GE. That was the election that May thought she was going to be returned with a huge majority but ended up losing her majority and leading a minority government. Are you aware of this or has it escaped your attention? Yet he still didn't win against the most hideous Tory government in living memory. And he can't make any headway against a Prime Minister who is unbelievably awful. Had,'t you noticed that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So you think people voted Labour because they want opposition to Brexit but in an election will vote for the Tories who are far more pro Brexit? I’m struggling to understand your logic. I think that Corbyn has achieved the remarkable feat of making it almost as embarrassing to state your support for him as stating your support for May. The fact is that Labour have let many voters down by actually helping to facilitate a Tory Brexit, rather than oppose it tooth and nail. I never said that people who voted Labour last time would swing to the Tories, but I do believe that a large number of 'moderate' Labour voters last time out are utterly disillusioned with the party, and would hold back their vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefan27 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Looking back, I suspect that may have been blip, with many voting for Labour under the false assumption that they were actually opposed to Brexit. If there was a GE tomorrow I'd hazard a guess that the Tories would romp home. Assumption they would actually oppose Brexit or dilute it or make it less likely or prevent the Tories from bulldozing it through via a large majority. If Labour is offering up the exact same thing as the Tories - but slightly nicer - then I think these voters will go elsewhere. If Labour are going to have a stronger showing at the next election - I would wonder why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Yet he still didn't win against the most hideous Tory government in living memory. And he can't make any headway against a Prime Minister who is unbelievably awful. Had,'t you noticed that? “The most hideous government in living memory”? Unless and until the Tories devastate the country with Brexit that title would still go to Thatcher. Despite the terrible MSM campaign against Corbyn, aided and abetted by many of his own MPs, Labour achieved one of the best comebacks from low polling numbers largely due to Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The Gang of Seven won’t do much I think but it shouldn’t be put aside that the Labour Party appears to be run by obsessive angry old men and pathetic neck beard wearing creeps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Granny Danger said: “The most hideous government in living memory”? Unless and until the Tories devastate the country with Brexit that title would still go to Thatcher. Despite the terrible MSM campaign against Corbyn, aided and abetted by many of his own MPs, Labour achieved one of the best comebacks from low polling numbers largely due to Corbyn. But did he win, is he Prime Minister? No. And there is no chance he will be. He is a dreadful leader. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, ICTChris said: The Gang of Seven won’t do much I think but it shouldn’t be put aside that the Labour Party appears to be run by obsessive angry old men and pathetic neck beard wearing creeps. You should join and try to change it. Look at it as a challenge. Meanwhile Tom Watson says the seven are not traitors! Not sure their local CLPs will agree Tommy boy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 A comeback to... what exactly? Labour lost that election; it doesn't have anywhere near enough MPs to form a government: and would be no closer to achieving that if there were an election tomorrow. Netting a couple of late goals in a 3-2 defeat to the political equivalent of Albion Rovers is not an achievement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, zidane's child said: Will she f**k. I reside in Liverpool and close to her Wavertree constituency and like Granny said, she’s out of touch with the people who put her there. Also, she’s anti Corbyn in an area where Corbyn is the Messiah. She should have toed the line. All 7 should be made to face by elections but they care about their 70 grand a year too much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: “The most hideous government in living memory”? Unless and until the Tories devastate the country with Brexit that title would still go to Thatcher. Despite the terrible MSM campaign against Corbyn, aided and abetted by many of his own MPs, Labour achieved one of the best comebacks from low polling numbers largely due to Corbyn. Ah yes. That Brexit that you voted for. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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