What is the point of Labour ?

[jimmer]

Yet another Labour cretin, Why people in Scotland continue to vote for this unionist scum beggars belief.

[Granny Danger]

2 hours ago, Crùbag said:

The SNP to blame for Labour making sectarian jokes...

 

Sturgeon needs to sort out the mess that the SNP have created in Syria before tackling this.

 

[Antlion]

10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Sturgeon needs to sort out the mess that the SNP have created in Syria before tackling this.

 

Still waiting on Nicoliar apologising for bombing Pearl Harbour, the bitch. 

[DrewDon]

3 hours ago, Detournement said:

I don't think Corbyn takes the opinion that all Leave voters are deploarable racists. Labour's project is to create a coallition of people on low and average incomes right across the UK, not to pander to middle class voters who decided they loved the EU the day after the vote.

Labour need remain and leave voters to build a majority.

Labour do need Remain and Leave voters to form a majority, but I don't think obfuscation will be as effective at the next general election as it appeared to be in 2017 - Labour will eventually have to piss off the more hardcore Remain or Leave voters, or risk leaving themselves exposed to pissing off both. I suppose the one thing you can say is, outside Scotland and maybe Wales, with the Lib Dems being such an impotent mess, I'm not sure more ardent Remain voters really have anywhere else to go at the moment unless they decide to abstain.

Also, whilst I think a second vote on Brexit is potentially problematic, I thought the purpose of Corbyn's leadership was for policy to be more heavily influenced by the grassroots membership, 86% of whom apparently want another referendum, rather than to resemble top-down Blairism. 

[NotThePars]

The members were balloted as to what they wanted to discuss at conference weren’t they?

[Detournement]

I'm not entirely convinced by that poll. In any poll that offers more or less choice more choice always wins. I've seen other polls of Labour members where the EU is way down the list of priorities behind public services.

Implementing socialist policies will be difficult enough without having a referendum to deal with.

[DrewDon]

I think an economically damaging Brexit could also be a pretty big hindrance to a Corbyn-led government. 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

1 hour ago, DrewDon said:

I thought the purpose of Corbyn's leadership was for policy to be more heavily influenced by the grassroots membership, 

You're naiveté is endearing

[Detournement]

JC dropping some labour value theory.

 

[Granny Danger]

41 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

You're naiveté is endearing

I don’t think it’s naive.  Whilst previous leaders made no bones about how the Labour Party should be run Corbyn always claimed that decisions should be more collective.

He will pay the price with his base when he is exposed as a liar.

 

[John Lambies Doos]

I don’t think it’s naive.  Whilst previous leaders made no bones about how the Labour Party should be run Corbyn always claimed that decisions should be more collective.
He will pay the price with his base when he is exposed as a liar.
 

Thought you liked him?

[Colkitto]

Labour chairman Ian Lavery: “We need to kill off the nationalists in Scotland and regain that great country.”  

[Benjamin_Nevis]

10 minutes ago, Colkitto said:

Labour chairman Ian Lavery: “We need to kill off the nationalists in Scotland and regain that great country.”  

Excellent. They're utterly consumed with hatred of the SNP for taking away their nice easy careers from corrupt Local Authority to Ermine. The state of Labour in Scotland these days is bordering on tumescence-inducing. Can't wait to say which rank incompetent they replace Dickie with. Useless c***s 

[HTG]

1 hour ago, Colkitto said:

Labour chairman Ian Lavery: “We need to kill off the nationalists in Scotland and regain that great country.”  

Not "the SNP". The people. 

What a prize fucking arsehole this c**t is. 

[Cerberus]

10 hours ago, Detournement said:

JC dropping some labour value theory.

 

No wonder he can't get elected.

 

[jimmer]

Labour.... A lost cause and an irrelevance in Scotland.  Here in Aberdeen wee Barney Crockett the Labour lord provost continues to fly the Butchers Apron from the Townhouse with his Tory coalition partner's full approval. This unionist disease still prevails in Scotland and is detrimental to any aspirations we have regards our future independence.

[Detournement]

Pete Wishart proving why working class Scotland needs the Labour Party.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Pete Wishart proving why working class Scotland needs the Labour Party.

Er . . no.

I read it as him having a go at SLab's new found support for the working class - it's all shite as they well know.

[welshbairn]

Good bit of perspective from Emily Thornberry. Look away Wings.

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I found the trans debate quite challenging, but talking to people, and listening to people when they are not shouting, what really struck me, what I have learned from feminism, is there are people who are marginalised and people who are treated badly. The feminism movement is big enough, and if someone believes they are born a man but are a woman, we have space.

Sometimes people say ‘What about women’s shortlists?’ There’s going to be a whole load of men turning up in dresses.Really?

You know, leaders have a good sense of their local parties, they will decide who they are going to have on their shortlist and they will have a good idea of people who are genuinely struggling with their identity and people who can contribute to parliament and be a good representative.

I think we need to be a little more relaxed about it and I think it’s desperately sad to see the way in which it’s become so aggressive. We need to step down a little bit.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

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