Newbornbairn Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44604844 They're removing Laura Ingall's name from a literary award set up in her memory because her work was racist, apparently. They "had received complaints for years over the Little House on the Prairie author's "anti-Native and anti-Black sentiments in her work". Examples of this are: "one of the opening chapters of the Little House books described a land with "no people. Only Indians lived there" and "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," one character says. At other points in the series, African-American characters are called "darkies". I'm from a generation that perhaps thinks she was of her time and her writing was indicative of the views of settlers. What say P&Bers? Have any P&Bers read the books (I did when I was 8 or 9 and loved them) Have any P&Bers oppressed and murdered a minority race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 'Progressives' in totalitarian, societal mothering, pearl-clutching censorship shocker. I've wiped out plenty Aztecs and Babylonians, but f**k Ghandi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44604844 They're removing Laura Ingall's name from a literary award set up in her memory because her work was racist, apparently. They "had received complaints for years over the Little House on the Prairie author's "anti-Native and anti-Black sentiments in her work". Examples of this are: "one of the opening chapters of the Little House books described a land with "no people. Only Indians lived there" and "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," one character says. At other points in the series, African-American characters are called "darkies". I'm from a generation that perhaps thinks she was of her time and her writing was indicative of the views of settlers. What say P&Bers? Have any P&Bers read the books (I did when I was 8 or 9 and loved them) Have any P&Bers oppressed and murdered a minority race? She was the goodie. fùck knows what they'd make of Nellie Olsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44604844 They're removing Laura Ingall's name from a literary award set up in her memory because her work was racist, apparently. They "had received complaints for years over the Little House on the Prairie author's "anti-Native and anti-Black sentiments in her work". Examples of this are: "one of the opening chapters of the Little House books described a land with "no people. Only Indians lived there" and "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," one character says. At other points in the series, African-American characters are called "darkies". I'm from a generation that perhaps thinks she was of her time and her writing was indicative of the views of settlers. What say P&Bers? Have any P&Bers read the books (I did when I was 8 or 9 and loved them) Have any P&Bers oppressed and murdered a minority race? You do realise who you've just triggered a pre-cum spurt from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 About time tbf, get Friends binned too. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/friends-netflix-sexist-racist-transphobic-problematic-millenials-watch-a8154626.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/friends-netflix-sitcom-problem-sexism-men-joey-phoebe-chandler-ross-rachel-a8168976.html Peppa Pig banned by 2030 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I don't see what the problem is. It's a children's book association so it's probably better that they stop honouring a racist. Especially when around 50% of kids born today in the US are non-Hispanic white. Kids should still read the books though. The series is important literature and it's good to reflect on how ideas and times have changed for the better. Reparation is fine as long as it doesn't erase the tale that history has to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, NewBornBairn said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44604844 They're removing Laura Ingall's name from a literary award set up in her memory because her work was racist, apparently. They "had received complaints for years over the Little House on the Prairie author's "anti-Native and anti-Black sentiments in her work". Examples of this are: "one of the opening chapters of the Little House books described a land with "no people. Only Indians lived there" and "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," one character says. At other points in the series, African-American characters are called "darkies". I'm from a generation that perhaps thinks she was of her time and her writing was indicative of the views of settlers. What say P&Bers? Have any P&Bers read the books (I did when I was 8 or 9 and loved them) Have any P&Bers oppressed and murdered a minority race? I don’t think you speak for your generation. You could argue that Hitler was of his time; there was lots of anti-Semitism in 1920s/1930s Germany, that’s why he got away with what he did. Doesn’t really excuse it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I don’t think you speak for your generation. You could argue that Hitler was of his time; there was lots of anti-Semitism in 1920s/1930s Germany, that’s why he got away with what he did. Doesn’t really excuse it though. Are you comparing Laura Ingalls with Hitler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Are you comparing Laura Ingalls with Hitler? Do you think that’s harsh on Hitler? Actually I was pointing out that your supposed reasoning had no merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I didn't realise it was a book. Up there with the waltons and sons and daughters for making me go play outside as a kid. Ban the boring b*****ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: You can’t go about judging people of yesterday based on today’s moral standards. Nobody would stand up to scrutiny. We are all products of our place and time. Even some of the views held by pie and bovril’s right on saints will be judged with horror by history. It’s bizarre how keen society is to try historical for holding views that were perfectly acceptable at that time. When you consider how keen society is to ignore actions such as blowing people up and killing innocent people that were wrong yesterday, wrong today and wrong tomorrow. Lots of 'classics' don't meet modern standards but some subjects are more 'p***kly' than others. Orphans on the rob is fine but say anything iffy about a different culture is bad. Last of the Mohican's is a dire read because of our modern views (mine included) but made a good film when it was slightly tweaked. Basically anything from about a hundred years ago is a bit dodgy due to the different moral standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, coprolite said: I didn't realise it was a book. Up there with the waltons and sons and daughters for making me go play outside as a kid. Ban the boring b*****ds. Add The Sullivans to the list of “oh f**k I’d rather pour boiling hot Tattie soup down my japs than watch that”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, coprolite said: I didn't realise it was a book. Up there with the waltons and sons and daughters for making me go play outside as a kid. Ban the boring b*****ds. Nothing wrong with the Waltons, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Nothing wrong with the Waltons, mate. Where are they on the Hitler scale of naughty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Nothing wrong with the Waltons, mate. They were in the klan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Where are they on the Hitler scale of naughty? Higher than you'd initially imagine it would appear. Grandpa seems to be getting right into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44604844 "darkies". Somerset Park probably older than the house is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Judging 19th century frontier life by modern standards, we're doomed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I grew up reading Enid Blyton books. Seems she may have been some sort of ist . I blame her for me now favoring my clothing style. Though the Nazi uniform does look well on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, coprolite said: They were in the klan ICTJohnboy. Location: Burnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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