parkcircus Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Louis Mooie said: I love Abbey Park, some great memories but when anyone has asked you a question you have answered with detail and respect and for that thanks. The move to the sports club has to happen for the sake of the club and anyone who disagrees is naive in thinking that the club can move forward by remaking at Abbey Park. We all love that place, we all have memories Some people think the committee woke up one morning and decided to move. The committee that’s there at the moment spent 12 months as the regeneration team and removed the sleepers so the park could stay insured, no insurance, no football. After that we looked at getting a full bar license, this would have made it easier to raise money for changing rooms. We went to meet the council Licensing Board, and although they were happy to grant a license, Planning and Building control had issues with the ground, we then arranged to meet with them we now also have a new banking has been built and that gate, which was supposed to be 4mX4m is coming out the ground like a Submarine Base, and the council aren’t pleased. At this point we are now told that nothing, including the stand, gate, bar, changing room, toilets, doesn’t have planning permission or building approval. We are advised to start removing buildings and stop all work, although a Destruction Order won’t be sent we are advised if there’s injury or complaints to saftey it could be sent. All work is eventually stopped, mud slinging starts, Head of Regeneration walks away. True costs to complete projects and debts start to become clear. We make a plan to clear debts and get most of it sorted out We then set a meeting with NAC: Connected Community’s, SportScotland, SFA, Football Partnership to ask for advice to raising funding to get new changing rooms as they are now deteriorating and rotting, we have over 10 meetings with funding groups. Basically there is nothing in the time line we are looking at and amount, SportScotland advise not to start a changing room project unless we have £120k in the bank or guaranteed. We don’t believe we can get this amount from the fan base we have. This is when we then mention it to the fans in June 2018 and show them the changing rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Bobby Brown Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Can’t get much clearer than that...naw? A new chapter in a colourful 120 year history. COYB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 We all love that place, we all have memories Some people think the committee woke up one morning and decided to move. The committee that’s there at the moment spent 12 months as the regeneration team and removed the sleepers so the park could stay insured, no insurance, no football. After that we looked at getting a full bar license, this would have made it easier to raise money for changing rooms. We went to meet the council Licensing Board, and although they were happy to grant a license, Planning and Building control had issues with the ground, we then arranged to meet with them we now also have a new banking has been built and that gate, which was supposed to be 4mX4m is coming out the ground like a Submarine Base, and the council aren’t pleased. At this point we are now told that nothing, including the stand, gate, bar, changing room, toilets, doesn’t have planning permission or building approval. We are advised to start removing buildings and stop all work, although a Destruction Order won’t be sent we are advised if there’s injury or complaints to saftey it could be sent. All work is eventually stopped, mud slinging starts, Head of Regeneration walks away. True costs to complete projects and debts start to become clear. We make a plan to clear debts and get most of it sorted out We then set a meeting with NAC: Connected Community’s, SportScotland, SFA, Football Partnership to ask for advice to raising funding to get new changing rooms as they are now deteriorating and rotting, we have over 10 meetings with funding groups. Basically there is nothing in the time line we are looking at and amount, SportScotland advise not to start a changing room project unless we have £120k in the bank or guaranteed. We don’t believe we can get this amount from the fan base we have. This is when we then mention it to the fans in June 2018 and show them the changing rooms. Great response as usual.Does anyone know how did clubs such as Irvine Victoria and Lugar for example, manage to raise the funds for their relatively new changing blocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabjo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Lugar got money from the community mining welfare fund or something like that for new dressing rooms irvine vics I have no idea but this ain't about others it's about the buffs I just wish those wanting to stay would put up or shut up as buffs are now becoming a joke ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemightyHERTHA Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Jeezo the buffs have had more regime changes than the f@cking Congo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Has mark Mackenzie been sold to hurlFord today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juventus Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The changing rooms at abbey park are a health and safety hazard from my last recollection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I take it that’s the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crfc Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I take it that’s the answerLooks like it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemms Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Has mark Mackenzie been sold to hurlFord today ?Signed for and played on Saturday for hurlford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Lugar got money from the community mining welfare fund or something like that for new dressing rooms irvine vics I have no idea but this ain't about others it's about the buffs I just wish those wanting to stay would put up or shut up as buffs are now becoming a joke .....It's worth knowing in the event that someone points out that two clubs with a smaller support than us have managed to build new changing blocks.For now it would be just good to know who will be running the club next season and what plans they have, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, energyzone said: It's worth knowing in the event that someone points out that two clubs with a smaller support than us have managed to build new changing blocks. For now it would be just good to know who will be running the club next season and what plans they have, if any. We will be having a committee meeting tomorrow and then releasing a statement regarding this now that there isn’t much progress on the changing room development. It’s not an easy thing to achieve and committees at Abbey Park for the last 10 year have been trying to raise funding for a changing room without any success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Club Statement Dear Fans, Members, Volunteers, Management and Players A few months back a supporters meeting was held to come up with options to replace the changing rooms at Abbey Park. At the present time no viable plan has been put forward to the committee and we now have to look at alternative options. We’d like to thank the fans group for trying to find a way to keep the team at Abbey Park, however we understand that there aren’t many funding routes available to Kilwinning Rangers and £100,000 is a large number for fans to find in their own pockets in a short period of time. At present the changing rooms will be lucky to see this season out, weather dependant, and are unfit for purpose going forward as we’ve already received complaints from visiting teams and officials. The committee will be investigating further the option of playing football at Kilwinning Sports Club from next season. At the moment there are many unknowns that need addressing, we as a Committee will work to answer as many of those concerns/questions by delivering a detailed plan by the 29th Dec. After a suitable period to allow all concerned to digest the proposed plans We will then hold a ballot vote on Wed 16th January with the option to stay as is or to relocate. We understand that this isn’t what a lot of the fans want to hear but the committee have agreed this course of action which we believe puts the future of Kilwinning Rangers first and the final decision will be down to the vote. Kind Regards KRFC Committee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Excuse my lack of knowledge of KSC, but would your intention be to play in grass or plastic there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Excuse my lack of knowledge of KSC, but would your intention be to play in grass or plastic there?Grass. The chairman said a few pages ago this was a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crfc Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 An interesting few months lie. ahead in buffs history the committee looks like they have done the homework ksc is the future as the kids need a pathway to senior football . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy1899 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 An interesting few months lie. ahead in buffs history the committee looks like they have done the homework ksc is the future as the kids need a pathway to senior football .I think it's more 2 do with the club having an ambitious future,which can't b realised at Abbey park,due to decades of neglect and no chance of raising the money 2 get it up 2 standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 hours ago, buffy1899 said: I think it's more 2 do with the club having an ambitious future,which can't b realised at Abbey park,due to decades of neglect and no chance of raising the money 2 get it up 2 standard. Yep that's more like it. It's like the Buffs version of Brexit! KSC or no deal ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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