buffy1899 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Yep that's more like it. It's like the Buffs version of Brexit! KSC or no deal ...More like 100k plus or Ksc I'd say.the folk who had plans 2 stay have came up with nothing in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crfc Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 More like 100k plus or Ksc I'd say.the folk who had plans 2 stay have came up with nothing in the last year. With remainers staying quite it looks like a move is on the cards perhaps sooner than we think coyb . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy2 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Looks like all the remainers are all talk no action. Be interested to hear what there plans are for staying at abbey park. All we hear is they dont want to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy1899 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Looks like all the remainers are all talk no action. Be interested to hear what there plans are for staying at abbey park. All we hear is they dont want to move. Think that's how things r moving fwd,there is no concrete plans or funding n they've had long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Regarding the vote - is it a simple majority wins or does it have to be a certain percentage for change before it becomes successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy1899 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Regarding the vote - is it a simple majority wins or does it have to be a certain percentage for change before it becomes successful?Don't think that's bn decided yet,but there talking season ticket holders,committee n volunteers voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheasant plucker Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Sounds like anyone who turns up will be allowed a say then? Does seem a bit of a Brexit scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy1899 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Sounds like anyone who turns up will be allowed a say then? Does seem a bit of a Brexit scenario U must be reading that wrong then ,as that's probably only a third of the support at most and basically members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 It’ll most likely be: Members, about 100 Committee/Volunteers about 15 Employees(Players/Management) about 20 All the people that can vote will be listed and will get a voting slip, won’t be a show of hands and voting will be open for several hours and adjudicated by a local councillor and not the committee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The viper Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Think for the majority there will be a huge emotional attachment to Abbey Park, certainly for me it’s got almost 50 years of memories.However if it’s in the best interests of the Buffs as a football team first, then we need to be open to change and let the committee put their plans forward. I can’t help but commend the current committee for the work they have done in improving the club.What would be the plans for Abbey Park if the Buffs do leave? From memory it’s zoned for leisure, would it pass back to the council to maintain its upkeep? Is there any way Abbey Park could fall under the umbrella of the Sports Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, The viper said: Think for the majority there will be a huge emotional attachment to Abbey Park, certainly for me it’s got almost 50 years of memories. However if it’s in the best interests of the Buffs as a football team first, then we need to be open to change and let the committee put their plans forward. I can’t help but commend the current committee for the work they have done in improving the club. What would be the plans for Abbey Park if the Buffs do leave? From memory it’s zoned for leisure, would it pass back to the council to maintain its upkeep? Is there any way Abbey Park could fall under the umbrella of the Sports Club? After relocation we would keep it to see if its still needed, and then talk to the council with it possibly being handed back if we no longer have a use for it. I imagine it would need cleared, that could take a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Are Buffs really going to leave Abbey Park after all the shenanigans getting it from Palmer in the '90s ? Sad. Seems strange that Medda were also considering a move when Strain Snr had so much say there. Take it that the ground can't be sold for housing as that was reason Buffs were able to remain playing at the ground years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 The parks owned by NAC on a lease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 So,...the taxpayers of the entirety of North Ayrshire own the ground ?...and it is currently zoned for leisure purposes and presumably can't be used for house building, (or any other purpose ), at least until the local plan is changed ? Forgive me if it has already been discussed earlier in this thread but can you also confirm that you personally have a commercial involvement (and therefore a commercial preference) in the club moving to the sports ground rather than remaining at New Abbey Park ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffy1899 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 So,...the taxpayers of the entirety of North Ayrshire own the ground ?...and it is currently zoned for leisure purposes and presumably can't be used for house building, (or any other purpose ), at least until the local plan is changed ? Forgive me if it has already been discussed earlier in this thread but can you also confirm that you personally have a commercial involvement (and therefore a commercial preference) in the club moving to the sports ground rather than remaining at New Abbey Park ? Think folk need 2 realise that it's not the chairman n committee that realise the Buffs need 2 move,the sensible fwd thinking fans and players do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Black Pennel said: So,...the taxpayers of the entirety of North Ayrshire own the ground ?...and it is currently zoned for leisure purposes and presumably can't be used for house building, (or any other purpose ), at least until the local plan is changed ? Forgive me if it has already been discussed earlier in this thread but can you also confirm that you personally have a commercial involvement (and therefore a commercial preference) in the club moving to the sports ground rather than remaining at New Abbey Park ? Commercial involvement? Please explain more. The buffs are a junior football club, and have ran at a loss for at least the 7 of the last 8 years. (That’s as long as I’ve been involved with the committees) The cost to replace the sewage pipe is £20k alone, because the illegal one that’s there runs into a neighbours back garden and into a rainwater downpipe. Last season I paid off debts of £23k mostly run up by trying to fix Abbey Park KSC is a audited charity that in Jan last year was running at a loss, on track to be profitable in 2022. The Buffs pay KSC £4k per year as a member for training, within that payment we are allowed to play our homegames there, so KSC don’t benefit financially from us moving there. Personally I’ve given KSC £1800 to fix the golf range so it can open and this year will add £8k to open the hospitality area. Ok sometimes I don’t pay for the pie and the free half time sandwich’s are great There isn’t any zoning on Abbey Park, our lease says it’ll be used for football. And I’m not a builder in anyway, I get someone when I need lightbulbs changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Black Pennel said: So,...the taxpayers of the entirety of North Ayrshire own the ground ?...and it is currently zoned for leisure purposes and presumably can't be used for house building, (or any other purpose ), at least until the local plan is changed ? Forgive me if it has already been discussed earlier in this thread but can you also confirm that you personally have a commercial involvement (and therefore a commercial preference) in the club moving to the sports ground rather than remaining at New Abbey Park ? I take it you are not a Buffs supporter? I'd say most Buffs supporters will already know the answers to your questions. Bit of fishing going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlowe Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Read all about it!! POT calls the KETTLE black https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/threave-rovers-unveil-new-football-12621342 just remember you read it here first. It seems from that article as though all the taxpayers of Dumfries and Galloway have gifted you the keys to the kingdom. A massive facility, FREE GRATIS. Who paid for those Floodlights then? Who the F--k are you really, Black Pennel and why are you interfering in the affairs of a club with which you have no connection, or have you, or had you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlowe Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Rumbled ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crfc Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Big question today is the game on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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