banana Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 10:09, Mr Pikey said: Most of the ungodly acts committed in the last two thousand years have been done by men of god. Human beings are that arrogant they think there's a special place to go to when they die , they don't want to accept they're going in a hole in the ground to be eaten by worms. Well, no. Most ungodly acts have been done by people of all persuasions, for varying reasons. Some in the name of / prompted by one belief system or another, sure, whether religious, tribal, ideological, political, .... Others for survival, expansion, science, ... Religion at its core encompasses and ponders death as a natural cycle of life, so not sure WTF that second comment is about. If anything, the decline of Christianity in the UK/West has made us individually less well-equipped to handle issues surrounding mortality, and therefore issues surrounding life, meaning. See: rampant depression, directionless young adults still living with their parents at 30, low birth rates, militant atheism, consumerism, hedonism, etc. used to fill the void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Tight John McVeigh is a tit said: Got to say fasting for a month is far from good for you, particularly with the eating patterns involved around prayer time. That's why many, many Muslims 'cheat' when fasting. Not drinking water, particularly in warm countries is absurd or fastening for extended hours because of your location. The koran doesn't say anywhere you should not drink alcohol. A problem with all religious books is in interpretation.Islam is hugely sexist. Pretty much every religion is sexist though some have taken steps to address this. Won’t hold my breath waiting for a Pope Edith. Of course Islam is up there with the worst of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Well, no. Most ungodly acts have been done by people of all persuasions, for varying reasons.I appreciate that we can’t expect professional logical rigour from the amateur philosophy on this thread but surely you can do better than this pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: I appreciate that we can’t expect professional logical rigour from the amateur philosophy on this thread but surely you can do better than this pish Oh God yeah, but as a short summary it suffices decently enough. You could expand yourself, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Oh God yeah, but as a short summary it suffices decently enough.You’re clearly lucky enough not to have read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: You’re clearly lucky enough not to have read it Read what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 10 hours ago, stuartsmfc said: This is an interesting debate about God and Evolution. You're managing to outbore the God botherers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 hours ago, banana said: Religion at its core encompasses and ponders death as a natural cycle of life, so not sure WTF that second comment is about. If anything, the decline of Christianity in the UK/West has made us individually less well-equipped to handle issues surrounding mortality, and therefore issues surrounding life, meaning. See: rampant depression, directionless young adults still living with their parents at 30, low birth rates, militant atheism, consumerism, hedonism, etc. used to fill the void. What is better... a lie that draws a smile or a truth that draws a tear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawpar Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Surely the answer is - that would be an ecumenical matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartsmfc Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Gordon EF said: What is better... a lie that draws a smile or a truth that draws a tear? Are you 100% sure that all religion is false? Bit of a bold statement, the best minds that have ever lived can't prove or disprove God/religion...yet P&B seem to have it all figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, stuartsmfc said: Are you 100% sure that all religion is false? Bit of a bold statement, the best minds that have ever lived can't prove or disprove God/religion...yet P&B seem to have it all figured out. Yes and now we’ve figured it out we can return to the real important issues. Spoiler It’s Lorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, stuartsmfc said: Are you 100% sure that all religion is false? Bit of a bold statement, the best minds that have ever lived can't prove or disprove God/religion...yet P&B seem to have it all figured out. Are you 100% sure that I'm not Thor, God of Thunder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Are you 100% sure that I'm not Thor, God of Thunder? Thor a Dunfermline supporter? Aye, good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Are you 100% sure that I'm not Thor, God of Thunder? I'm 500% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, ICTJohnboy said: I'm 500% sure. So not 100% then. Ergo I am indeed the aforementioned heir to the throne of Asgard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Thor a Dunfermline supporter? Aye, good one. That's enough from you peasant. Back to your turnips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: So not 100% then. Ergo I am indeed the aforementioned heir to the throne of Asgard. You should be so Loki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Thor a Dunfermline supporter? Aye, good one. Stop, hammer time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Stop, hammer time. You gotta pray just to make it today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, stuartsmfc said: Are you 100% sure that all religion is false? Bit of a bold statement, the best minds that have ever lived can't prove or disprove God/religion...yet P&B seem to have it all figured out. Given that we all know you can't be 100% sure of anything other than your own existence, then the only practical and rational way of looking at the world requires people to have a slightly lower bar for 'practical' certainty. Call it 99.99% sure. I'm 99.99% sure that all religion is false. The same way that I'm 99.99% sure that if I jump in front of a car, it'll hit me rather than dematerialise out of existence then materialise on the other side of me. The same way that I'm 99.99% sure the old Japanese ghost that lives under my bed (that I just made up) doesn't actually exist. The best minds that have ever lived wouldn't even try to prove or disprove that a God exists or a particular religion is real because they'd realise it's an utterly futile task. You can never prove or disprove the existence of something that doesn't exist or does exist but doesn't interact with the physical world or obey any of it's rules. Even if 'God' appeared in front of you, told you mormonism was right all along and gave you a ride on the back of his flying giraffe, you couldn't be 100% sure it was real and that you weren't just having a severe mental breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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