larky9 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Entitled to an opinion you are. The committee is letting the club and it’s supporters down. Surely as custodians of the club they should be stabilising things and keep them so going forward until eventually the next generation take over. But as things are going just now there won’t be much left to handover. Your club is in free fall. Im not doubting Dereks pedigree as a player. But sadly good players don’t necessarily make good managers. I suspect you could pick a team on a Saturday and the results wouldn’t be any worse. So in my opinion it’s time for a change. There’s decent idle managers out there with experience and contacts that’ll at least steady the ship before the supporters get fed up and slowly start moving on. What young person wants to go and watch that every week. The committee work as hard as they can,unless you know more than you are letting on,agreed they are managers out there idle probably with a better pedigree than Derek,however the committee will give him every chance,unless he decides otherwise,as I keep saying it might not be a bad thing going down keep some of the players and go again,I know we take heavy defeats every week but some of our play is not too bad,so that gives Derek something too work with,agreed we could be doing with more committee members but that's junior football for you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 dont know if its a coincidence or not , but things seemed to take a dip when roy Peters ( think thats his name) stepped down from his role at the club , dont really know only asking the question Roy Gibson is the man you are talking about,Roy done a good job,but so are the other committee members,there is not a lot of difference between there work ethic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkyforever Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Certain Individual said: Entitled to an opinion you are. The committee is letting the club and it’s supporters down. Surely as custodians of the club they should be stabilising things and keep them so going forward until eventually the next generation take over. But as things are going just now there won’t be much left to handover. Your club is in free fall. Im not doubting Dereks pedigree as a player. But sadly good players don’t necessarily make good managers. I suspect you could pick a team on a Saturday and the results wouldn’t be any worse. So in my opinion it’s time for a change. There’s decent idle managers out there with experience and contacts that’ll at least steady the ship before the supporters get fed up and slowly start moving on. What young person wants to go and watch that every week. Hear Hear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkyforever Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, larky9 said: 2 hours ago, Certain Individual said: Entitled to an opinion you are. The committee is letting the club and it’s supporters down. Surely as custodians of the club they should be stabilising things and keep them so going forward until eventually the next generation take over. But as things are going just now there won’t be much left to handover. Your club is in free fall. Im not doubting Dereks pedigree as a player. But sadly good players don’t necessarily make good managers. I suspect you could pick a team on a Saturday and the results wouldn’t be any worse. So in my opinion it’s time for a change. There’s decent idle managers out there with experience and contacts that’ll at least steady the ship before the supporters get fed up and slowly start moving on. What young person wants to go and watch that every week. The committee work as hard as they can,unless you know more than you are letting on,agreed they are managers out there idle probably with a better pedigree than Derek,however the committee will give him every chance,unless he decides otherwise,as I keep saying it might not be a bad thing going down keep some of the players and go again,I know we take heavy defeats every week but some of our play is not too bad,so that gives Derek something too work with,agreed we could be doing with more committee members but that's junior football for you Its a BAD thing to go down. Its an HORRENDOUS thing to lose so heavily every week. So many aspects to this , it would take pages to list them. Is this what the famous Larkhall Thistle have come to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Its a BAD thing to go down. Its an HORRENDOUS thing to lose so heavily every week. So many aspects to this , it would take pages to list them. Is this what the famous Larkhall Thistle have come to?Hopefully only this season,but we shall see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkyforever Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 6 hours ago, larky9 said: I'm just a supporter of the club that's all,Derek's pedigree as a player is good,so given time you hope he will do ok as a manager,but his job was always going to be that but difficult because he had to build a new team so in saying that if we go down it's not a problem,the young players will have a season under their belt which should hold them in good stead for next season The young players ( not their fault ) are way short at this level. One or two might come through, but to expect otherwise is simply delusional. More humiliations ae going to kill their careers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The young players ( not their fault ) are way short at this level. One or two might come through, but to expect otherwise is simply delusional. More humiliations ae going to kill their careers.Your right,probably about 2 of them will make at this level,but they are gaining experience and that should help them in the future,maybe we should've went down last season and started to build in a lower league that might of helped the kids but we are where we are and we will keep on goingDelusional,nobody at the club were thinking all the kids would cut it at this level we gave them a platform to build and with them playing experienced juniors every week should benefit them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkyforever Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, larky9 said: Your right,probably about 2 of them will make at this level,but they are gaining experience and that should help them in the future,maybe we should've went down last season and started to build in a lower league that might of helped the kids but we are where we are and we will keep on going Delusional,nobody at the club were thinking all the kids would cut it at this level we gave them a platform to build and with them playing experienced juniors every week should benefit them Questions still remain- why did we lose a full team? Something very, very wrong. The Gow signed 5 of them and ae in the Sectional Cup Final. In years past, we were in that final frequently. I believe the pool of players we had were better than showed. Given their loss, what plan was put in place? Why are we persevering with a failed poiicy? Are we really prepared for weekly hammerings ? Does nobody comprehend the dangers? A 140 -year history reduced to a laughing stock? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Questions still remain- why did we lose a full team? Something very, very wrong. The Gow signed 5 of them and ae in the Sectional Cup Final. In years past, we were in that final frequently. I believe the pool of players we had were better than showed. Given their loss, what plan was put in place? Why are we persevering with a failed poiicy? Are we really prepared for weekly hammerings ? Does nobody comprehend the dangers? A 140 -year history reduced to a laughing stock?If you are a season ticket holder these questions can be asked at the AGM,hopefully the committee will gladly provide you with these answers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkyforever Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, larky9 said: 1 hour ago, larkyforever said: Questions still remain- why did we lose a full team? Something very, very wrong. The Gow signed 5 of them and ae in the Sectional Cup Final. In years past, we were in that final frequently. I believe the pool of players we had were better than showed. Given their loss, what plan was put in place? Why are we persevering with a failed poiicy? Are we really prepared for weekly hammerings ? Does nobody comprehend the dangers? A 140 -year history reduced to a laughing stock? If you are a season ticket holder these questions can be asked at the AGM,hopefully the committee will gladly provide you with these answers Given the extent of the crisis, shouldnt the Club be communicating how we got here, and what the plan is? Pretty basic stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Doesn't matter how the club got in this position it's how they get out of it is the main concern. However some of the criticism and negativity on here is pretty poor imo. The team will continue to develop in the coming weeks and the last three results don't tell the full story. Three new signings have came in and the majority of younger boys have gone back to the 19's The younger ones left will develop learn from the signings. The hardest thing is the league is split in two in terms of strength and judge them when they have a settled and signed squad and they have played the Craigmark's Kello and Girvan's etc with all due respect. No doubt they would have fared better in a lower league but it is what it is. Easy to criticise when support becomes hard but is what's needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Doesn't matter how the club got in this position it's how they get out of it is the main concern. However some of the criticism and negativity on here is pretty poor imo. The team will continue to develop in the coming weeks and the last three results don't tell the full story. Three new signings have came in and the majority of younger boys have gone back to the 19's The younger ones left will develop learn from the signings. The hardest thing is the league is split in two in terms of strength and judge them when they have a settled and signed squad and they have played the Craigmark's Kello and Girvan's etc with all due respect. No doubt they would have fared better in a lower league but it is what it is. Easy to criticise when support becomes hard but is what's needed. Very true,this has been my point throughout,most of the teams have settled squads and been together for a few seasons we haven't so you can see why we have been the whipping boys every week so far,let's see where we are in a few months once things settle down,I doubt it very much that Derek will want to lose heavily every week,so he will be working hard to rectify that.Somebody asked why the players were all allowed to leave? It was their decision to leave as most junior players only sign for a season and they also said they were only there for Sinky,so when he went the players all went too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjeffery Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 As I have said before won’t be long till larkhall is playing in the bottom league or they could go out the junior game altogether 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 As I have said before won’t be long till larkhall is playing in the bottom league or they could go out the junior game altogether Nae chance of that big chappie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Bigjeffery said: As I have said before won’t be long till larkhall is playing in the bottom league or they could go out the junior game altogether 6 games in and you've got them down to losing the remaining 24 plus next season's 30 and the following season's 30 as well. Any chance of your lottery numbers ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 games in and you've got them down to losing the remaining 24 plus next season's 30 and the following season's 30 as well. Any chance of your lottery numbers ?He can give them to me as well if they come in I can pump a right quid into the club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbie Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 11/09/2018 at 19:56, larky9 said: On 11/09/2018 at 19:52, larkyforever said: Questions still remain- why did we lose a full team? Something very, very wrong. The Gow signed 5 of them and ae in the Sectional Cup Final. In years past, we were in that final frequently. I believe the pool of players we had were better than showed. Given their loss, what plan was put in place? Why are we persevering with a failed poiicy? Are we really prepared for weekly hammerings ? Does nobody comprehend the dangers? A 140 -year history reduced to a laughing stock? If you are a season ticket holder these questions can be asked at the AGM,hopefully the committee will gladly provide you with these answers I've said in a previous post that players weren't getting paid thats why they left its as simple as that, Did roy gibson not help the club out with the money side of things? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I've said in a previous post that players weren't getting paid thats why they left its as simple as that, Did roy gibson not help the club out with the money side of things?The players had contracts so all monies were paid in full,now if payments were late maybe that's why they weren't happy,so because of the bad winter we had last season probably no money was coming in,fundraisers were done to enhance the income but if people don't support them there is not a lot the club can do,so maybe a wee bit of come and go from the players to help alleviate the situation would've helped,instead of putting the club under pressure to pay their wages Now tis is only my opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbie Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, larky9 said: The players had contracts so all monies were paid in full,now if payments were late maybe that's why they weren't happy,so because of the bad winter we had last season probably no money was coming in,fundraisers were done to enhance the income but if people don't support them there is not a lot the club can do,so maybe a wee bit of come and go from the players to help alleviate the situation would've helped,instead of putting the club under pressure to pay their wages Now tis is only my opinion abit of spin there mate , any of the thistle players that were there last year weren't paid for months, and when they rightly asked about there wages were met with the attitude if you don't like it go . other clubs wer struggling as well but didn't treat there players in that fashion. big sinky wasn't getting paid either and the players only hung about because he's a very decent guy and the players didnt want to let him down/ Is it any wonder the full team left , afraid some at the the thistle dont want to take any responsibility for this mess they have caused, and just want to bury there heads in the sand , I feel really sorry for the new manager what chance has he got with the club been run in this way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky9 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 abit of spin there mate , any of the thistle players that were there last year weren't paid for months, and when they rightly asked about there wages were met with the attitude if you don't like it go . other clubs wer struggling as well but didn't treat there players in that fashion. big sinky wasn't getting paid either and the players only hung about because he's a very decent guy and the players didnt want to let him down/ Is it any wonder the full team left , afraid some at the the thistle dont want to take any responsibility for this mess they have caused, and just want to bury there heads in the sand , I feel really sorry for the new manager what chance has he got with the club been run in this wayNot going to disagree with that,on your last point Derek knew at interview what he was getting into 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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