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1 hour ago, JMDP said:

You can't seriously claim he had a major role in the huge fees coming in. Also, Liverpool spent £170m last summer, over £100m more than City. He is spending his way to success, contradicting what he said when he first started the role. It's hilarious how the hipsters forget his lack of success.

That you've enjoyed the season is nice, he needs at least one trophy to justify his gargantuan spending or it will be another year of failure for him. Seven whole years without a trophy is awful, he just doesn't compare to successful managers like Guardiola, Mourinho or Simeone. 

Football is difficult at that level, no matter what happens now its laughable to describe this season as anything other than a huge success for Klopp.

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12 hours ago, ali_91 said:

Hate Chelsea and their horrible, racist, right wing fans, but was hoping they’d score from that corner after the total shitebaggery by Burnley of heading to the corner with a free kick in a dangerous position in the last minute when they’re already all but safe. Pathetic and a brexit club to boot. 

They got the point that they needed to secure safety.

If only John Barnes did that 30 years ago :lol:

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18 hours ago, JMDP said:

You can't seriously claim he had a major role in the huge fees coming in. Also, Liverpool spent £170m last summer, over £100m more than City. He is spending his way to success, contradicting what he said when he first started the role. It's hilarious how the hipsters forget his lack of success.

That you've enjoyed the season is nice, he needs at least one trophy to justify his gargantuan spending or it will be another year of failure for him. Seven whole years without a trophy is awful, he just doesn't compare to successful managers like Guardiola, Mourinho or Simeone. 

difference between liverpool and city is , liverpool have had to sell a few key players in recent years to get to the level they are at. city just have that money and have had it for years, totally different, also liverpool cant afford to spend 60m on a player who barely gets game time like mahrez look at the squads overall theres a huge difference in terms of wealth.

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23 hours ago, JMDP said:

You can't seriously claim he had a major role in the huge fees coming in. Also, Liverpool spent £170m last summer, over £100m more than City. He is spending his way to success, contradicting what he said when he first started the role. It's hilarious how the hipsters forget his lack of success.

That you've enjoyed the season is nice, he needs at least one trophy to justify his gargantuan spending or it will be another year of failure for him. Seven whole years without a trophy is awful, he just doesn't compare to successful managers like Guardiola, Mourinho or Simeone. 

 

Saying he's spent a lot is a bit of a pointless criticism. What do you suggest he do? Not spend the money and piss about in 5th or 6th like Arsenal? Unless you get a miracle like Leicester you are going to have to spend £100s millions at that level to get the team winning the league.

Their competitors are spending similar amounts, Chelsea spent £100 million on a goalkeeper, Man City buy full-backs for £50 million a pop and others who struggle to get a game for the same price. Man Utd have spent an insane amount on players yet have never been further away from potential league winners. That is just the game these days, the skill is spending the money properly, which Klopp has done. He has improved every position in that team since he arrived with the exception of a creative midfielder (through losing Coutinho). It's not like he's been signing proven world class players like Messi, Ronaldo and Hazard. All the guys he has signed, despite already being very good players, had a bit to prove at the top level: Mane was at Southampton, as was van Dijk, Salah did well with Roma but was a failure last time in the Premier League, Robertson was in the Championship, Wijnaldum, bringing Alexander-Arnold through. Plus as mentioned he lost his best player in the middle of all this. They may win nothing but regardless it has been an excellent season for them, and probably more importantly it is sustainable, he has built a squad that will continue to challenge domestically and in Europe therefore they will win something sooner or later. That is what Liverpool needed, since the early 90s they've had a few good teams and won trophies, but they never looked like returning to be one of the dominant English sides again, they now do. Compare their trajectory since Klopp arrived to the mess at Man Utd and you will see how good a job he's done, despite having arguably a worse starting point and spending less money.

And I say all that as someone who can't stand the club!

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18 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

Saying he's spent a lot is a bit of a pointless criticism. What do you suggest he do? Not spend the money and piss about in 5th or 6th like Arsenal? Unless you get a miracle like Leicester you are going to have to spend £100s millions at that level to get the team winning the league.

Their competitors are spending similar amounts, Chelsea spent £100 million on a goalkeeper.

When did Chelsea spend that on a goalkeeper?

The reference to Klopp's spending came from his own hypocrisy (he didn't want to spend that money and get success that way apparently) and Rab saying they never spent to City levels last year, when they actually outspent city by £100m last summer. He's become the chequebook manager he said he wouldn't be, hasn't won a trophy yet but still has all the hipsters frothing about him. 

The facts are he hasn't won a trophy in seven years. He has spent an utter fortune yet people suggest he is working some miracle to have Liverpool in these positions. They should be in those positions given their spend. It would be disgraceful if he had them nowhere near the title again. Being in the mix is a bare minimum.  Look at what Simeone has done in the last seven years, winning trophies against giants with nowhere near the budget whilst Klopp has returned nothing. He must deliver at least one trophy this year. Anything else is a clear failure. 

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15 minutes ago, Dele said:

When did Chelsea spend £100m on a goalkeeper? 

he is only about £28/29m off from what Chelsea have spent on a goalkeeper(£71/72m(€80m) on Arrizabalaga)

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1 minute ago, JMDP said:

When did Chelsea spend that on a goalkeeper?

The reference to Klopp's spending came from his own hypocrisy (he didn't want to spend that money and get success that way apparently) and Rab saying they never spent to City levels last year, when they actually outspent city by £100m last summer. He's become the chequebook manager he said he wouldn't be, hasn't won a trophy yet but still has all the hipsters frothing about him. 

The facts are he hasn't won a trophy in seven years. He has spent an utter fortune yet people suggest he is working some miracle to have Liverpool in these positions. They should be in those positions given their spend. It would be disgraceful if he had them nowhere near the title again. Being in the mix is a bare minimum.  Look at what Simeone has done in the last seven years, winning trophies against giants with nowhere near the budget whilst Klopp has returned nothing. He must deliver at least one trophy this year. Anything else is a clear failure. 

Diamond nailed it above :)

I didn’t say that he’d spent less than Man City last summer. I think the rest has been clearly answered already. It’s time to let it go and accept that Liverpool are back :)

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4 minutes ago, JMDP said:

When did Chelsea spend that on a goalkeeper?

The reference to Klopp's spending came from his own hypocrisy (he didn't want to spend that money and get success that way apparently) and Rab saying they never spent to City levels last year, when they actually outspent city by £100m last summer. He's become the chequebook manager he said he wouldn't be, hasn't won a trophy yet but still has all the hipsters frothing about him. 

The facts are he hasn't won a trophy in seven years. He has spent an utter fortune yet people suggest he is working some miracle to have Liverpool in these positions. They should be in those positions given their spend. It would be disgraceful if he had them nowhere near the title again. Being in the mix is a bare minimum.  Look at what Simeone has done in the last seven years, winning trophies against giants with nowhere near the budget whilst Klopp has returned nothing. He must deliver at least one trophy this year. Anything else is a clear failure. 

You cant just say "he's out spent city by 100mill last summer" and use it as a stick to beat klopp with, tally up the total squad cost and then beat him if its more than city's spend, infact add up liverpool, city, chelsea, man united, who'd have spent the most on their squad 

As for comparing him to simeone, atletico did a Leicester once, they won the copa del rey and yeah he's won two europa leagues but given klopp has only been in the europa league once under him and finished runners up, and been in the CL every other season i dont think you can compare European triumphs

Would we class ranieri as a better manager than klopp? 

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26 minutes ago, ajwffc said:

he is only about £28/29m off from what Chelsea have spent on a goalkeeper(£71/72m(€80m) on Arrizabalaga)

Which is only £2/£3m off what Liverpool themselves spent on a goalkeeper. 

Before Chelsea did. 

It's pretty hard to "keep up" with what others are spending if you're the one setting the bar. 

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3 minutes ago, Dele said:

Which is only £2/£3m off what Liverpool themselves spent on a goalkeeper. 

Before Chelsea did. 

It's pretty hard to "keep up" with what others are spending if you're the one setting the bar. 

Yep. Deal all done in a flash. Chelsea left for dust and having to look elsewhere and they paid more. The Klopp factor :)

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