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3 minutes ago, 7-2 said:

Listening to this ref it's obvious these interpretations have been made by people who have never actually played any sport in their lives.

It’s also obvious that the refs are interpreting the law in a completely different way to how it’s written down in the rule book.

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.

The following must be considered:

  • the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
  • the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
  • the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence

It literally says right in the rules that the position of the hand doesn’t make it an offence, yet time and time again you hear the pundit refs going on about the position of the hand. If they want to give non-deliberate handballs then fine, but if that’s the case then they need to update the laws of the game to show that.

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1 minute ago, DG.Roma said:

At any point though, have they even bothered to suggest turning over to watch Porto v Roma which is in extra time?

How strange they're talking through the remarkable PSG v Man United game on the PSG v Man United programme. Anyone interested in Porto V Roma might actually be watching the Porto v Roma programme which has been showing the game all night.

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I'm in the VAR's absolutely shite camp. It's an absolute farce having to fanny around waiting to see if  it's a goal or not. It takes away the joy of scoring a goal. It's not a game of fucking rugby.  I really hope it doesn't come to our game.

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13 minutes ago, HibsFan said:

Surely nobody on here is using that to hold up VAR in all its glory? :lol:

It's absolutely awful and for the plastics who stay at home on their sofa. I'd rather Hibs get screwed over 1000 times by bad refereeing than have to not celebrate a goal in case a magical box rules it out.

Great point mate. Shocked by how many people who watched the game on TV are so excited about an English team getting through.

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4 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

It’s also obvious that the refs are interpreting the law in a completely different way to how it’s written down in the rule book.

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.

The following must be considered:

  • the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
  • the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
  • the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence

It literally says right in the rules that the position of the hand doesn’t make it an offence, yet time and time again you hear the pundit refs going on about the position of the hand. If they want to give non-deliberate handballs then fine, but if that’s the case then they need to update the laws of the game to show that.

Over and above the actual written laws that we plebs can see, the refs apparently get sent interpretations of them that we are not party too apparently. That's where stuff like the 'natural position' crap comes from. It doesn't quite render the actual laws useless but it's not far off it.

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16 minutes ago, SpiderDee said:

Penalty all day long. His arm is out from his body directing the ball away from goal. Harsh but correct. He should have taken it in the face like a real man

 

Irrelevant.

And his arm being away from his body? Can you show me any footballer ever who runs/jumps with their arms glued to their side like a penguin? When the ball hits him his arm is a few inches away from his side. Where would you expect it to be?

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11 minutes ago, 7-2 said:

How strange they're talking through the remarkable PSG v Man United game on the PSG v Man United programme. Anyone interested in Porto V Roma might actually be watching the Porto v Roma programme which has been showing the game all night.

Yeah I get that, but they're both on BT Sport, it wouldn't be advertising a rival. Surely a quick wee "by the way, there's still live football on the other side" would have been a good idea.

Anyway, another dodgy VAR pen looks like it's deciding this one. Definitely right to check it, but why do refs lose all common sense when they get in front of a screen?!

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11 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

Great point mate. Shocked by how many people who watched the game on TV are so excited about an English team getting through.

It’s good news for our game here in Britain. 

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23 minutes ago, eez-eh said:

It’s also obvious that the refs are interpreting the law in a completely different way to how it’s written down in the rule book.

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.

The following must be considered:

  • the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
  • the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
  • the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence

It literally says right in the rules that the position of the hand doesn’t make it an offence, yet time and time again you hear the pundit refs going on about the position of the hand. If they want to give non-deliberate handballs then fine, but if that’s the case then they need to update the laws of the game to show that.

 

That is it. As the law is on paper almost all handballs aren't handballs. Refs are obviously being told to interpret it differently.

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