++Ammo - Airdrie++ Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Cove player Paul McManus not coping particularly well. Stolen from twitter That's proper heads gone stuff.Cowden are pish..... But pumped your lot twice Paul x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Rovers 3rd spot kick might be the worst I've ever seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Two point deduction for Hearts along with a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, true_rover said: Two point deduction for Hearts along with a fine. They should have been thrown out of the cup. Disgraceful decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Pray for foreverarover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 42 minutes ago, true_rover said: Two point deduction for Hearts along with a fine. Seems a bit of a fudge to keep the group competitive (Hearts still have it in their own hands to qualify if they can win twice, though they probably need to do so heavily to catch ICT anyway). For me you either fine them or you dock the points altogether (and probably award them to Cove), you don't dock two of them and not give anything to Cove. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Pretty pathetic punishment but not unexpected TBH.If it had been a team outwith the premier I dont think the,d have got off so lightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince sinclair Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Happened to us years ago and we were made to replay tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Seems a bit of a fudge to keep the group competitive (Hearts still have it in their own hands to qualify if they can win twice, though they probably need to do so heavily to catch ICT anyway). For me you either fine them or you dock the points altogether (and probably award them to Cove), you don't dock two of them and not give anything to Cove. Odd. I wonder if the make these decisions and hope people won't notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Seems a bit of a fudge to keep the group competitive (Hearts still have it in their own hands to qualify if they can win twice, though they probably need to do so heavily to catch ICT anyway). For me you either fine them or you dock the points altogether (and probably award them to Cove), you don't dock two of them and not give anything to Cove. Odd. Doesn’t necessarily just affect this group. They could finish second on 9 points and knock out another team who also finishes on 9 but has an inferior goal difference. So, if the idea was to keep the group competitive, it goes further than that and could mean a team in another group that didn’t break any rules being knocked out by one that did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Fudge is the right word, strange for the team 'sinned' against not to get anything. Have hearts had their goals for and against annulled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Darren said: I wonder if the make these decisions and hope people won't notice? Was a bit daft to send out a press release explaining the decision if that's the case. Daft from the SPFL. Either there should be no punishment or Cove should be awarded a 3-0 victory. As SD points out, it's clearly been done to try and ensure the Hearts vs ICT game on BT isn't a dead rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Eoin Doyle said: They should have been thrown out of the cup. Disgraceful decision. It's cool, Doyle - we're going out anyway - dinnae worry, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said: As SD points out, it's clearly been done to try and ensure the Hearts vs ICT game on BT isn't a dead rubber. That's exactly the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, Flash said: Doesn’t necessarily just affect this group. They could finish second on 9 points and knock out another team who also finishes on 9 but has an inferior goal difference. So, if the idea was to keep the group competitive, it goes further than that and could mean a team in another group that didn’t break any rules being knocked out by one that did. Well yes, this by extension. It keeps Hearts alive and at least theoretically in their own hands. If they win two games by enough goals they'll get through, even if by actually winning the group. 24 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Fudge is the right word, strange for the team 'sinned' against not to get anything. Have hearts had their goals for and against annulled? No they haven't. Result stands, they've just been docked 2 points. For me it's just such a fudge. If it's no big deal then fine them and move on. If it's a big deal then wipe the result (and precedent says award it to Cove). There's no real justification for dropping it to 1 point and awarding Cove nothing. Before the change to the group set up and the bringing in of a rule leaving punishment to committee discretion there was a rule which just said fielding an ineligible player was an automatic expulsion so I think we can say for sure it IS a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 That's exactly the reason. Surely was what was always likely - I expected fine and 3 point deduction. 2 points fair enough seems sensible in circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Surely was what was always likely - I expected fine and 3 point deduction. 2 points fair enough seems sensible in circumstances. Cowden Cowboy being in favour of a pathetic decision by the footballing authorities? Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Surely people must understand the logic - Hearts won 2-1 and got 3 points. Irving only came on in the 65th minute - approximately into the last 1/3rd of the game. Hearts were leading 2-0 at the time of the substitution. Therefore Hearts should be allowed to keep those two goals as Irving was not an influence. However he was on the pitch at the time of the Cove equalizer so that does not stand. So Hearts should have won 2-0 BUT as a punishment the Cove goal was allowed to stand. As for the points - SIMPLES - 2/3rd of the game had been played before the incident - therefore two points should have been awarded but as a punishment a second point was taken off them. So one point and a 2-1 win makes total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said: Surely people must understand the logic - Hearts won 2-1 and got 3 points. Irving only came on in the 65th minute - approximately into the last 1/3rd of the game. Hearts were leading 2-0 at the time of the substitution. Therefore Hearts should be allowed to keep those two goals as Irving was not an influence. However he was on the pitch at the time of the Cove equalizer so that does not stand. So Hearts should have won 2-0 BUT as a punishment the Cove goal was allowed to stand. As for the points - SIMPLES - 2/3rd of the game had been played before the incident - therefore two points should have been awarded but as a punishment a second point was taken off them. So one point and a 2-1 win makes total sense. If you're being serious, you're an idiot. If this was meant to be funny, then you tried *way* too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minertaur Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I'm just glad that Cove gain absolutely f**k all from this [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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