Suspect Device Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Give me liberty or give me death. Probably by liver damage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steiner Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 47 minutes ago, parsforlife said: It's cheap to produce and people like it. It's not complicated. In other words, market forces. What I meant was why it's allowed to be so cheap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 It's "cheap" because much of it doesn't cost very much to make. Alcohol taxes in Britain are already amongst the highest in Europe. The cost of a bottle of vodka without duty and VAT applied would be about £2.50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Covid in Scotland: Alcohol deaths increased during pandemic - BBC News 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Covid in Scotland: Alcohol deaths increased during pandemic - BBC News Yep, MAP doing its job of reducing harmful drinking. What a success. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: It is not the only place where it's acceptable to sink breakfast pints. They should visit the Czech republic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Covid in Scotland: Alcohol deaths increased during pandemic - BBC News Heard them on BBC Breakfast this morning saying that increasing MAP and reducing consumption should be amongst the Covid recovery programmes. Get this punted. It is a failed policy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Heard them on BBC Breakfast this morning saying that increasing MAP and reducing consumption should be amongst the Covid recovery programmes. Get this punted. It is a failed policy. You don't know the Scottish government by now? We need to make sure that alcohol is beyond the reach of the plebs who can't be trusted to drink responsibly. Edited February 22, 2022 by Suspect Device 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: You don't know the Scottish government by now? We need to make sure that alcohol is beyond the reach of the plebs who can't be trusted to drink responsibly. When I started this thread (4 years ago, FFS) I called it Prohibition for the Poor. Exactly what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 The Mammy knows best 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 19/11/2021 at 22:02, DeeTillEhDeh said: No. I'm not arguing with a moron who agrees like a fucking a simpleton with everything the Scottish Government does. I left the SNP the day they brought in vaccine passports - and because of the increasingly autocratic tendencies within the party. I know unionists jokingly accuse it of being a cult, but f**k me, it's close to the truth. It's you and your kind who resort to sycophantic drivel that will ultimately drive voters from the SNP. Hopefully after independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 The end of airport breakfast pints would be an utter tragedy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 Who says AI doesn't exist? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 months and that's the best response you could come up with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Airport breakfast pints are mainly a thing for folk heading on holiday, a stagger etc. I'd guess that your suited and booted businessman isnt going to be sinking a few pints in a Scottish airport prior to 8am before heading to a meeting. The next step in this will be shutting early opening pubs, which, while on the face of it may be a good thing to stop folk staying out all night, getting pished at 7am, stops folk working a night shift getting a pint on the way home from work. It wasn't that long ago, we were looking at 24hr licensing and wanting to introduce a 'cafe culture' to tackle alcohol problems in Scotland. The fact is, it's a far more complex problem than the government can deal with. MUP is fine on paper but charging £8 instead of £4 for a bottle of diamond White does not alleviate the problem. I think a lot of us like to look at alcohol abuse as a lower class issue but I'd hazard a guess that there are as many upper class/middle class people that drink as much in a pub/at home than your lower income person does. It's just in a more 'socially acceptable' place and they are paying £3.50 a pint or £30 a bottle of whisky rather than £20 a case of tennents and £14 a bottle of spirits and they are less likely to batter the wife/dog/bairn when they get home. TL Dr, pricing the poor out of alcohol is missing the point completely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 16 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: I think a lot of us like to look at alcohol abuse as a lower class issue but I'd hazard a guess that there are as many upper class/middle class people that drink as much in a pub/at home than your lower income person does. It's just in a more 'socially acceptable' place and they are paying £3.50 a pint or £30 a bottle of whisky rather than £20 a case of tennents and £14 a bottle of spirits and they are less likely to batter the wife/dog/bairn when they get home. Can you clarify - are you saying that lower class people are more prone to this than middle class folk, or that the middle class have this perception of the lower class? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 16 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: Airport breakfast pints are mainly a thing for folk heading on holiday, a stagger etc. I'd guess that your suited and booted businessman isnt going to be sinking a few pints in a Scottish airport prior to 8am before heading to a meeting. The next step in this will be shutting early opening pubs, which, while on the face of it may be a good thing to stop folk staying out all night, getting pished at 7am, stops folk working a night shift getting a pint on the way home from work. It wasn't that long ago, we were looking at 24hr licensing and wanting to introduce a 'cafe culture' to tackle alcohol problems in Scotland. The fact is, it's a far more complex problem than the government can deal with. MUP is fine on paper but charging £8 instead of £4 for a bottle of diamond White does not alleviate the problem. I think a lot of us like to look at alcohol abuse as a lower class issue but I'd hazard a guess that there are as many upper class/middle class people that drink as much in a pub/at home than your lower income person does. It's just in a more 'socially acceptable' place and they are paying £3.50 a pint or £30 a bottle of whisky rather than £20 a case of tennents and £14 a bottle of spirits and they are less likely to batter the wife/dog/bairn when they get home. TL Dr, pricing the poor out of alcohol is missing the point completely. It’s a class issue. No question about it. And it absolutely is a sign of a slightly authoritarian streak in the SNP government. But airport drinking happens all over the world, minimum pricing or no. And there’s hee-haw wrong with it. It doesn’t encourage binge drinking, alcoholism, or any other of these working class sins. A morning pint prior to a four hour flight is a fine, fine thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Before everyone gets upset at Wee Nippy the chief nanny unfairly targeting them again, this airport licensing thing is coming from the freedom loving Tories. The UK Government is considering proposals to restrict pub hours and has suggested banning alcohol sales from 4am to 8am, however the Scottish Government say it has no plans to license pubs. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/19944484.airport-pubs-scottish-licensing-leader-backs-restrictions/?ref=twtrec 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Before everyone gets upset at Wee Nippy the chief nanny unfairly targeting them again, this airport licensing thing is coming from the freedom loving Tories. The UK Government is considering proposals to restrict pub hours and has suggested banning alcohol sales from 4am to 8am, however the Scottish Government say it has no plans to license pubs. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/19944484.airport-pubs-scottish-licensing-leader-backs-restrictions/?ref=twtrec Those horrible b*****ds snatched my milk when I was at primary school and they’ve not changed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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