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How does Kerr’s wages work now? Is it split between the playing budget and coaching staff budget or has his playing wage already been freed up?

Either way I’d hope we can fully replace him in January whilst also adding a centre back, striker and maybe another midfielder??
Ridiculous question here but would Kerr as manager get more than Kerr as player?

I've genuinely no idea.

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Ridiculous question here but would Kerr as manager get more than Kerr as player?

I've genuinely no idea.

Depending on what he was earning as a player? I’d guess he was one of our higher earner so perhaps he’s on less now than he was. Even if he’s not it’ll still have freed up money in a way as his wage won’t be taken from the playing budget I’d hope.

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16 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:

Depending on what he was earning as a player? I’d guess he was one of our higher earner so perhaps he’s on less now than he was. Even if he’s not it’ll still have freed up money in a way as his wage won’t be taken from the playing budget I’d hope.

Is becoming Manager rather than player not a promotion of sorts?

I would think he'll be on at least what he was before with a decent increment. Although I expect he would be on less than McCall either way. If this hypothesis is correct, there should be a slight delta saved on the Manager salary and we should be saving a players salary which will help in January.

I'm terms of players, I am expecting 4 departures in January with 3 additions. I also expect another coach to be appointed.

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9 hours ago, pandarilla said:

Ridiculous question here but would Kerr as manager get more than Kerr as player?

I've genuinely no idea.

He was within the salary guidelines  that had Jim McIntyre interested , so I believe he will be on a decent salary and way more than his position as a player  

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12 hours ago, Trogdor said:

Is becoming Manager rather than player not a promotion of sorts?

I would think he'll be on at least what he was before with a decent increment. Although I expect he would be on less than McCall either way. If this hypothesis is correct, there should be a slight delta saved on the Manager salary and we should be saving a players salary which will help in January.

I'm terms of players, I am expecting 4 departures in January with 3 additions. I also expect another coach to be appointed.

Doolan, Ross & Adams + ??

I think we may struggle to hold on to Harvie, Forrest & McCowan, however they're all under contract so unless we get a silly money offer (which we might) then I'd be telling any suitors to beat it.

I believe all three are easily capable of playing at mid table SPL standard as a minimum and would reckon there will be clubs in the English Championship watching them all closely, especially Harvie..............

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3 hours ago, WATTOO said:

Doolan, Ross & Adams + ??

I think we may struggle to hold on to Harvie, Forrest & McCowan, however they're all under contract so unless we get a silly money offer (which we might) then I'd be telling any suitors to beat it.

I believe all three are easily capable of playing at mid table SPL standard as a minimum and would reckon there will be clubs in the English Championship watching them all closely, especially Harvie..............

Can I say first off I agree totally with this. However thinking about it this morning, at what point do we actually begin to believe that we should be making a concerted push to get promoted?

I've already said if players want to leave, we have to start cashing in, but we're playing at a level where we know we can compete at the top end of this league. After that who knows, but with injuries clearing and a bit of luck you just never know.

We're now a third into the league and as usual every team is capable of taking points off each other.

We're a team on an upward curve, who knows when that opportunity will arise for us again? Football at our level is as much cyclical as it is unpredictable.

Fanciful perhaps but as a support, dare we dream?

Finally, at no point am I saying that we're streets ahead of anybody or that we should be getting too big for our boots. I'm sure the team know that our success is built on effort and organisation first of all. Those levels cannot change from game to game or we will come unstuck.

I just feel looking at this seasons league we can keep looking upwards surely.

Or are we forever destined to be pulling rabbits out of hats every summer?

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20 minutes ago, BukyOHare said:

Can I say first off I agree totally with this. However thinking about it this morning, at what point do we actually begin to believe that we should be making a concerted push to get promoted?

I've already said if players want to leave, we have to start cashing in, but we're playing at a level where we know we can compete at the top end of this league. After that who knows, but with injuries clearing and a bit of luck you just never know.

We're now a third into the league and as usual every team is capable of taking points off each other.

We're a team on an upward curve, who knows when that opportunity will arise for us again? Football at our level is as much cyclical as it is unpredictable.

Fanciful perhaps but as a support, dare we dream?

Finally, at no point am I saying that we're streets ahead of anybody or that we should be getting too big for our boots. I'm sure the team know that our success is built on effort and organisation first of all. Those levels cannot change from game to game or we will come unstuck.

I just feel looking at this seasons league we can keep looking upwards surely.

Or are we forever destined to be pulling rabbits out of hats every summer?

If, and it's a big "If" we get the right players in at January, assuming funds and the right players are available to Kerr then that would be our only realistic chance of a sustained challenge. Of course I am only basing this on last seasons downturn around Christmas time. All if's, buts and maybes.

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7 minutes ago, BukyOHare said:

Can I say first off I agree totally with this. However thinking about it this morning, at what point do we actually begin to believe that we should be making a concerted push to get promoted?

I've already said if players want to leave, we have to start cashing in, but we're playing at a level where we know we can compete at the top end of this league. After that who knows, but with injuries clearing and a bit of luck you just never know.

We're now a third into the league and as usual every team is capable of taking points off each other.

We're a team on an upward curve, who knows when that opportunity will arise for us again? Football at our level is as much cyclical as it is unpredictable.

Fanciful perhaps but as a support, dare we dream?

Finally, at no point am I saying that we're streets ahead of anybody or that we should be getting too big for our boots. I'm sure the team know that our success is built on effort and organisation first of all. Those levels cannot change from game to game or we will come unstuck.

I just feel looking at this seasons league we can keep looking upwards surely.

Or are we forever destined to be pulling rabbits out of hats every summer?

Yes, good points. I actually believe (whether rightly or wrongly) that we have a "once in a lifetime" team at the moment, which in the modern era with so much money in the game is almost unthinkable for a team like ourselves.

Think of Hamilton with McCarthy, McArthur, Antoine -Curier etc which was a special time for them and I firmly believe that McCowan, Harvie, Forrest, Kelly, Doohan etc can do the same for us, ably backed by Moffat, Doc & co of course.

People will keep saying how poor this league currently is, however you can only beat what's in front of you and on our good days we're simply unstoppable and sensational to watch as we're not just beating teams, we're completely blowing them away !!

As I say, I think McCowan could be a really special player (how he's not been called up to the U21's is beyond me) and Forrest, Kelly, Harvie & Doohan will all have top level careers ahead of them, of that I'm sure, so for us it's just a case of enjoying them all while we can and see just where they can take us...............

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1 hour ago, WATTOO said:

Yes, good points. I actually believe (whether rightly or wrongly) that we have a "once in a lifetime" team at the moment, which in the modern era with so much money in the game is almost unthinkable for a team like ourselves.

Think of Hamilton with McCarthy, McArthur, Antoine -Curier etc which was a special time for them and I firmly believe that McCowan, Harvie, Forrest, Kelly, Doohan etc can do the same for us, ably backed by Moffat, Doc & co of course.

People will keep saying how poor this league currently is, however you can only beat what's in front of you and on our good days we're simply unstoppable and sensational to watch as we're not just beating teams, we're completely blowing them away !!

As I say, I think McCowan could be a really special player (how he's not been called up to the U21's is beyond me) and Forrest, Kelly, Harvie & Doohan will all have top level careers ahead of them, of that I'm sure, so for us it's just a case of enjoying them all while we can and see just where they can take us...............

I think the u21s are pretty strong where he plays  unfortunately.  

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Is Ross still at Ayr or has returned to Aberdeen?

He’s still at Ayr but he’s not been seen at Ayr since July.

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17 minutes ago, itzdrk said:

Jesus f**k, empty him. 

Based on his political opinions? Ok m8. 

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I for one would be proud to see Derek represent us in London he’s a great guy personally and done well with his solicitors firm. Better than Corri Wilson anyway
I'm not claiming Corri was an amazing MP but she did a hell of lot more than Bill Sleepy Grant

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Ah good.  I was getting bored of the ticket system chat - now we get to discuss politics. That always goes well. 

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At the risk of indulging in the politics chat - he isn’t standing in the same seat that Corrie Wilson and then Bill Grant held.

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