ayrunitedfw Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, ATLIS said: Some chat on our Facebook groups that Mullin has been recalled by us, any word on your end? Aww Jeezy peeps man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Ayr23 said: So much for a season long loan. I don’t see why they would recall him, surely he’s not going to be in their squad? Season long loan unless we think we can use the situation to f**k over our own player and another club… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Some treatment from the club to a guy who helped them to back to back promotions. The club will be looking out for themselves but they’re using their own player as a pawn to try and squeeze any cash out of us that they can. I can see him leaving and we won’t get him back. Unless we can agree a PCA on reduced terms but even then that won’t see him back until the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 In fairness it’s apparently only some guy on a Livi Facebook page. Nothing concrete yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Aye, I wouldn't read too much into something on the Meadowbank Thistle Facebook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ayr23 said: So much for a season long loan. I don’t see why they would recall him, surely he’s not going to be in their squad? Will be clauses in it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I’d be astonished if something isn’t agreed with both clubs and Mullen sees out the rest of the season with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I don't see much wrong with us if we think we can get you to pay his wages, from a Livi point of view. If we can save some money then fair enough. He can't exactly play anywhere else this season so it's either make 5 minute cameos for us or Ayr stump up his wages. What I can see us doing is just mutually terminating his contract, and he can just leave to sign permanently with Ayr. He can choose to sit and take money from Livi, or walk for nothing and go to Ayr. It's shite if you're on the waiting side of the deal, which is understandable, but neither club owes the other anything for free 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Think all (domestic) loans should be considered to be a 6 month loan now given that the parent club can just bin it off at any point during the next transfer window. Probably not something we should be getting involved in during the summer window going forward. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, itzdrk said: Think all (domestic) loans should be considered to be a 6 month loan now given that the parent club can just bin it off at any point during the next transfer window. Probably not something we should be getting involved in during the summer window going forward. Aye this. Pretty much all clubs review the loan situations and either recall to use them or recall to loan them up a level. It’s shite for the clubs that are reliant on getting 3-4 young players in but I agree that we can’t afford to ever get in the situation of doing that. 1-2 max and even then Chalmers and Mullin have been huge for us and we could potentially lose them both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, itzdrk said: Think all (domestic) loans should be considered to be a 6 month loan now given that the parent club can just bin it off at any point during the next transfer window. Probably not something we should be getting involved in during the summer window going forward. Aye, we're almost into extortion territory. Livi know he is valuable to us so their position is either you up the wage contribution or we recall him. A real ball ache. Even the option of a mutual termination suggested by ATLIS might not help as our wage structure may not allow us to make Mullin as lucrative on offer as he would accept. So he won't take that option either. This could well go right to the wire on Tuesday night. Edited January 28, 2023 by Trogdor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Surely this will all be sorted before Tuesday considering we've got a game that night. Expecting at least one imminent on the Monday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Trogdor said: Aye, we're almost into extortion territory. Livi know he is valuable to us so their position is either you up the wage contribution or we recall him. A real ball ache. Even the option of a mutual termination suggested by ATLIS might not help as our wage structure may not allow us to make Mullin as lucrative on offer as he would accept. So he won't take that option either. This could well go right to the wire on Tuesday night. Realistically he's not going to be after more than 800 IMO, he knows he's walking into a place he's guaranteed to start at too. He only left us on loan because he didn't want to work for his spot in the team, and wanted guaranteed starts. Mutual termination and signed by Tuesday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, ATLIS said: Realistically he's not going to be after more than 800 IMO, he knows he's walking into a place he's guaranteed to start at too. He only left us on loan because he didn't want to work for his spot in the team, and wanted guaranteed starts. Mutual termination and signed by Tuesday Most likely an 18 month deal or maybe even a 6 month with a trigger option to extend in summer if we got promoted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazbart Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Could all just be mind games with the Cove and QP games coming up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 6 hours ago, D'Jaffo said: Some treatment from the club to a guy who helped them to back to back promotions. He left of his own choice after those promotions because Ross County offered him more money. So there's been no mistreatment and his Livi legend status is secure. Livi have changed formation in the last month to now playing with wide attackers again. That tactical set up looks likely to continue for the rest of the season so its not impossible Mullin has been recalled for on-field reasons. If Mullin wants to transfer to Ayr in this window, though, then that'll be the likely outcome. His prior loans out have been at his own request so there must be a mutual respect between him and Martindale. The speculation a fee will be required from Ayr isn't realistic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanayr1987 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 If livi recall him I hope they go bust again! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 hours ago, ATLIS said: Mutual termination and signed by Tuesday I hope so mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 If it was a season long loan agreement, then we must already have agreed to cover a portion of his wages for the 2nd half of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ryanayr1987 said: If livi recall him I hope they go bust again! Does anyone really know where Livingston’s money comes from? Probably best not to ask too many questions. The media certainly never do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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