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Let’s face it, there is a HUGE element of luck involved in recruitment.

We were all quite impressed with the signings that Kerr was making leading up to this season.

Hopkin could recruit an absolute gang and end up steamrolling the league - who knows.
Absolutely this.

Those fans who were critical of signing shankland being the best example.

Some signings look great and turn out great.

Some signings look great and turn out shite.

Some signings look shite and turn out shite.

Some signings look shite and turn out great.

Many fans will have a reasonable percentage of predictions but in the end we're all guessing to an extent.

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56 minutes ago, AUFC 1910 said:

Let’s face it, there is a HUGE element of luck involved in recruitment.

We were all quite impressed with the signings that Kerr was making leading up to this season.

Hopkin could recruit an absolute gang and end up steamrolling the league - who knows.

There is a huge element of luck, of course there is, but there are definitely  teams and individuals who are consistently "lucky" by the groundwork they put in and the time they commit to it. 

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15 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

Absolutely this.

Those fans who were critical of signing shankland being the best example.

Some signings look great and turn out great.

Some signings look great and turn out shite.

Some signings look shite and turn out shite.

Some signings look shite and turn out great.

Many fans will have a reasonable percentage of predictions but in the end we're all guessing to an extent.

Some teams and individuals guess less than the others and make more informed decisions though. That's what they put the success that often follows, down to. 

Don't be a total guesser. 

 

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1 hour ago, pandarilla said:

Absolutely this.

Those fans who were critical of signing shankland being the best example.

Some signings look great and turn out great.

Some signings look great and turn out shite.

Some signings look shite and turn out shite.

Some signings look shite and turn out great.

Many fans will have a reasonable percentage of predictions but in the end we're all guessing to an extent.

Noted

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McCall signs players he has had before and know won’t let him down. He said when he signed Rose that he spoke to McInness to find out what kind of person he was. 
 

If Kerr did that with the players he signed then he needs to delete a lot of numbers from his phone. 
 

Did any players do Hopkin a job at Morton? Doesn’t look like it so I’d hope he doesn’t start there. 

Kerr insisted that he did his homework on players so it’s hard to genuinely hear what the issue was. I am sure some players will want to excuse the Ayr part of their CV by blaming something at the club so it will be interesting to see what comes out in the future.

 

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I saw it mentioned earlier but the budget difference between what Hopkin should have available at Ayr and Morton is significant (I understand).  Unless he gets us relegated of course. 

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31 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said:

If Kerr did that with the players he signed then he needs to delete a lot of numbers from his phone. 

We'll see where a lot of this seasons squad end up in their career for sure. 

Ndaba, Sinisalo, Baird, Reading, Houston, Walsh, Anderson, Miller and Smith are all "decent" individual players for our level and in the right team, tactics and their own attitude. 

We didn't get somebody to score goals (and still haven't), as has been pointed out numerous times its about getting 11 individuals to play as a team. That along with the lack of a goalscorer is the main reason we are where we are. Defensively we've been acceptable. 

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1 minute ago, itzdrk said:

I saw it mentioned earlier but the budget difference between what Hopkin should have available at Ayr and Morton is significant (I understand).  Unless he gets us relegated of course. 

As the second largest shareholder at Morton (if that is indeed true) he's only got himself to blame then. 😉

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1 hour ago, diegomarahenry said:

Ayr part of their CV by blaming something at the club so it will be interesting to see what comes out in the future.

Mostly every player who have left Ayr in last 3 seasons have only had positive things to say about the club , even this season the only players who were here any length of time and moved on Sinisola and Smith have both tweeted how good the club were to them 

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1 hour ago, BukyOHare said:

As the second largest shareholder at Morton (if that is indeed true) he's only got himself to blame then. 😉

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Makes a mockery of any of the paying players chat doesn't it. 

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14 minutes ago, itzdrk said:

Makes a mockery of any of the paying players chat doesn't it. 

Yes. The fact he has a clear interest in another team in the league can't just be swept under the carpet surely? If indeed it's true. There's no reason to doubt the Morton fans word on this is there? 

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2 hours ago, BukyOHare said:

As the second largest shareholder at Morton (if that is indeed true) he's only got himself to blame then. 😉

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https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC003264/filing-history

He listed on the Confirmation statement made on 28 December 2020 as shareholding 220 with 41666 ordinary shares. 

Didn't bother to check to see how it compares to everyone else on the list.

 

 

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If use are that upset about it fire an email to the club and make your feelings known

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If Hopkins has a superior budget to say Morton , QoS  and ICT next season , assuming we and they are all in the Championship, then I wouldn’t expect him to do his summer shopping in the bargain bucket , hoping to pull out a couple of diamonds like McCall did with LS and Rose .  Not for players that will be first eleven material .  This is because we can’t take a punt on league survival again . If Smith is being truthful about his ambitions for the club that is . We must simply pay the going rate or better it for certain positions . 

So hypothetically let’s imagine Hoppy likes Toderov and sees him as a vital part of our team for next season , only problem is ICT are offering him £900 a week on a one year deal . I am being optimistic that Smith would sign off on a superior package and the big fella joins us .  I’m hoping  this is the kind of ambition we can show in dealings for three or four pivotal positions in the starting eleven . All the other signings can be jobbers , rough  un-polished diamonds ,punts or loans . That’s the kind off backing that gives Hopkins the opportunity to build a team he really wants . Judge him after that , ...

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1 hour ago, ayrunitedfw said:

If use are that upset about it fire an email to the club and make your feelings known

It's not a matter of being upset though is it? If Hopkin has over 40,000 shares in a club in the same league it must be something that needs addressed. I've never heard of a manager having shares in another club in the same division. 

You'd like to think it might have been brought up during the recruitment process by Hopkin himself, no? Maybe it was and the club are happy with the situation. 

Maybe the Morton fans can advise if these shares were given in lieu of wages when things were getting a bit tight financially. I can't think of a scenario where a manager would put his hand in his pocket and actually buy shares from his employers. Even given Hopkin's close links to the club. 

Imagine we played Morton in the last game of the season with a winner stays up scenario at stake?! 🙈

 

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3 hours ago, ryanayr1987 said:

Is that not a conflict of interest? 

 

2 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I'd certainly say so! Cant say it sits easy with me tbh

I'm not sure it is, he owns 1% of Morton.

Different story if he had a higher % ownership and he was earning some sort of return and would benefit in some way financially from Morton's performance. I can't imagine Morton are paying dividends.

I would imagine it's an interest he would have declared when he applied for the job. However, it doesn't preclude him from being Ayr United manager. 

I don't think the optics are particularly good though. Would imagine he will be punting the shares when the fans take over at Morton.

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He was manager of Livingston whilst having shares in Morton, no?

Didn’t really hear any issues about it then.

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