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12 minutes ago, BukyOHare said:

If it isn't enough time and we go down, which is a distinct possibility, then Smith (for not making the change sooner) Hopkin and Kerr all take their share of the blame. 

No blame for the players? 🤷‍♂️

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9 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said:

We wouldn’t of got St Johnstone though? 
 

ETA: We’d of got Rangers/Cove Rangers away 

Ahh okay, fair enough

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14 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said:

We wouldn’t of got St Johnstone though? 
 

ETA: We’d of got Rangers/Cove Rangers away 

I didn't fancy us taking a trip up to Aberdeen tbf. Better to focus on the league.

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Smith wasn’t even chairman for most of the season. The blame would primarily lie at the feet of Cameron and Kerr, with a mention for Hopkin and a very slight one for Smith. 

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Smith appointed Hopkin after gushing about the quality of applicant, he also said I’m sure in one of his first interviews that he wanted Ayr to be a premier league team in about 5 years (I think). So he will take a portion of the blame if we get relegated and it’ll be interesting to see what his plan is to how we attain that vision. 

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8 hours ago, D'Jaffo said:


Yes. They’re either disinterested, unfit or just shitebags. Either way it’s all on them.

It’s not convenient at all, it just doesn’t fit your narrative. Dundee tried to dominate us and left space in behind them. It played right into our hands. We didn’t particularly expose Elgin’s weaknesses. We simply turned up for the game with our boost on the correct feet and won easily.

You can go through each individual player and for the vast majority go “aye they’ve all done reasonably well in this league” but football isn’t as easy as that. I said it when Kerr was manager that he’s brought it some good individual players but as a team they don’t play well. It is not a team that is good enough together to stay up comfortably as is being shown.

The Dundee and Elgin games don't fit your narrative, that's why I said its convenient.

I don't remember Dundee ever dominating us or even trying to in that game. Our success in that game was down to moving up and down the pitch as a team, playing the correct pass at the right time, having a good tempo to our play and counter attacking well because of it.

Paddy Reading's tenacity and skill on the touchline leading upto Smith's finish and McKenzie's fine strike from outside the box were all when Dundee had bodies back. That wasnt down do there being acres of space behind them. Even our first was due to good pressing when we didnt have the ball and again breaking with pace.

After the Dundee game I really thought there was an edge to our play, an organisation and a purpose. Nobody can say its been anywhere near matching the levels of performance since. That's down to playing the direct pass too often and relying on percentage football to get territory. You're almost hoping for something to happen rather than making something happen.

Players become isolated and gaps appear between the defence and midfield, and the midfield and the strikers. 

I wouldn't disagree with your description of individuals but its now up to the current manager to get every last ounce of effort and output from each of them. I agreed with the sentiment of letting Cammy Smith go, I just hope his departure isn't the difference between us staying up or not.

 

Edited by BukyOHare

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4 hours ago, diegomarahenry said:

Out of the current squad, I would keep - 

Houston - Still young, showed promise before

Reading - Improved once he was made a regular

Muirhead - Potential to be a Jamie Adams type leader on the park

Roscoe - Flawed but still young, may be a good partner for an Ndaba type

Murdoch - Based on past form, deserves another year

Chalmers - Still like to see him in Kerrs "quarterback" position, between the centre halfs and dictating the game. He doesn't have the energy to be a wide or attacking player.

McCowan - Best player we have by some distance

Moffat - deserves another year

McKenzie - Still developing

Moore - If the player he was before his injuries returns, I'd rather he was at Ayr. 

Houston ,Reading , Muihead , Chalmers and Murdoch are all under contract for next season . What imput they will have remains to be seen .

Moffat , Done .

Roscoe , Dud .

McCowan, Off to Dundee United .

Moore , Would love him to get one last chance , but we need four live bodies in our pool of strikers . McKenzie will occupy one of those slots .

 

 

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3 minutes ago, North British said:

Houston ,Reading , Muihead , Chalmers and Murdoch are all under contract for next season . What imput they will have remains to be seen .

Moffat , Done .

Roscoe , Dud .

McCowan, Off to Dundee United .

Moore , Would love him to get one last chance , but we need four live bodies in our pool of strikers . McKenzie will occupy one of those slots .

 

 

McCowan to Dundee United? Is that the rumour? Hadn’t heard that but couldn’t grudge the boy that move. Disappointing to lose another academy graduate for nothing (if true)! 

Edited by ecocme

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17 minutes ago, North British said:

Houston ,Reading , Muihead , Chalmers and Murdoch are all under contract for next season . What imput they will have remains to be seen .

Moffat , Done .

Roscoe , Dud .

McCowan, Off to Dundee United .

Moore , Would love him to get one last chance , but we need four live bodies in our pool of strikers . McKenzie will occupy one of those slots .

 

 

I’m not sure Moffat is done tbh, the way we have set up all season has negated every single one of his attributes. 

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16 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

I’m not sure Moffat is done tbh, the way we have set up all season has negated every single one of his attributes. 

He missed a sitter yesterday and not for the first time in recent games , in all honesty yesterday we created the opportunities to score a few  goals , that was not down to poor management it was down to poor finishing

Moffat , McKenzie x2 , McCowan and Muirhead all had good goal scoring chances that other teams are putting away 

Edited by Robbo63

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2 minutes ago, Robbo63 said:

He missed a sitter yesterday and not for the first time in recent games , in all honesty yesterday we created the opportunities to score a few  goals , that was not down to poor management it was down to poor finishing

Moffat , McKenzie x2 , McCowan and Muirhead all had good goal scoring chances that other teams are putting away 

Finishing definitely isn’t one of his good attributes though! 
I don’t think it’s McKenzie’s either - and he needs to improve that to do well at this level. 

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You'll get another year out of Moffat if we get relegated to league one

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I love Moffat but think his time is up regardless of what division were in. 

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I think Moffat is fine as a 3rd or 4th choice striker in this league. We really do need to make sure we get a couple of good options in the door over the summer.

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Keep

  • Sinisalo
  • Ndaba
  • Houston
  • Reading
  • Baird
  • Muirhead
  • McCowan
  • Murdoch 
  • McKenzie
  • Barjonas & Walsh (possibly)

Punt

  • Everyone else 

Defensively i wouldn't say is our biggest issue, in fact it's probably one of our strength areas which is strange to think considering our position, it's the midfield who offer no protection or willingness to track back to help the defence.

Along with not having any attacking players seemingly capable of hitting a barn door never-mind the back of the net.

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8 hours ago, AyrExile said:

Kerr got a free pass for around 12 months before criticism was acceptable then further can kicking waiting for a transfer window to fix his errors.  Would have thought Hopkin might have got a bit more latitude than this tbh

I gave Kerr the benefit of the doubt as it was his first job and he was clearly working hard behind the scenes, I liked his style as a player and really hoped he could get Ayr playing well and believed he could.     Hopkin however has proved that what we are seeing right now is absolutely all we are going to get so I'm far less patient - especially as we look like we are going down and the damage caused by a year of no fans and trying to all of a sudden try and persuade fans back to watch us slugging it out with shite football in the middle of League 1 after folk have got used to a year of not going to the football could be catastrophic.  Was hard enough getting folk in to watch us scoring 120 odd goals with Shankland and Moore etc. 

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15 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:

I think Moffat is fine as a 3rd or 4th choice striker in this league. We really do need to make sure we get a couple of good options in the door over the summer.

Think he will kept on for that purpose along with doing a role within the back room staff 

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2 minutes ago, Robbo63 said:

Think he will kept on for that purpose along with doing a role within the back room staff 

Would assume this would be fitness coach or something in a similar vein give his PT work?

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5 minutes ago, Robbo63 said:

Think he will kept on for that purpose along with doing a role within the back room staff 

Where is Moore fitness wise? Saw he was advertising fitness boot camps every Saturday morning so I assume he is fit enough to do that but unlikely to be fit enough to make any match day squads ?  

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4 minutes ago, Hursty said:

I gave Kerr the benefit of the doubt as it was his first job and he was clearly working hard behind the scenes, I liked his style as a player and really hoped he could get Ayr playing well and believed he could.     Hopkin however has proved that what we are seeing right now is absolutely all we are going to get so I'm far less patient - especially as we look like we are going down and the damage caused by a year of no fans and trying to all of a sudden try and persuade fans back to watch us slugging it out with shite football in the middle of League 1 after folk have got used to a year of not going to the football could be catastrophic.  Was hard enough getting folk in to watch us scoring 120 odd goals with Shankland and Moore etc. 

Have to agree with you on that, for the first time this season I was sitting watching on Saturday thinking I really can't be arsed renewing my ST to watch that style of football. 

As these things go with football our opinions and feelings rapidly change from one extreme to the other quite easily. Just now it's a feeling of being absolutely scunnered, part of that is maybe not being at the games in person. Come July once we see the shape of the new squad it might be a very easy choice to renew with the right signings.

 

On paper this year we looked like we could do the business. I felt very optimistic of a playoff berth being very achievable. Buying a ST was a no brainer. 

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