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1 minute ago, North Terrace Gazza said:

 


Why did we agree to the TV deal then?

 

That was the other thing. 

I don’t know how much of a say the championship clubs have had in the deal. 

I looked it up the other day and I’m pretty sure the article said they were planning to show some premiership games at the 7.05 slot from next season but I’m not sure if that is going to happen or not.

If it’s not and the premiership clubs have given the championship clubs this deal then it’s a bit shit for us.  

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12 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:


It only really works when it’s 2 clubs in close proximity to each other but even then the bizarre kick off times make it hard for folk who are working.

In this league though the sensible picks would be RC vs ICT, Falkirk vs Alloa, Dunfermline vs Falkirk, Morton vs Partick. Maybe at a push Ayr vs Queens or Partick but certainly not Queens vs Ross County like they’re doing in a couple of weeks.

Yup, I couldn’t agree more. 

The thing I find strange is that they do the exact opposite.

I’m sure I read a couple years ago that the EFL was actually scheduling midweek games for the teams furthest apart, not sure if it’s the same thing they are trying to do up here.  

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I don't like the 7.05 kick off time .It's a real pain in the arse and a good few supporterswill be working to 5 half 5 .we took 400 odd to tannadice in November 7.45 kick off .250 this time .I had too knock off work early on Friday and also last month at falkirk .Glasgow area can be a real nightmare for traffic at that time on a Friday afternoon. I don't see it sticking about too long tbh think it's the same this Friday night when we host ross county .which will be the 1st out of 4 games that have been televised too be at Somerset.

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On 4/14/2019 at 20:58, NEFarab said:

That was the other thing. 

I don’t know how much of a say the championship clubs have had in the deal. 

I looked it up the other day and I’m pretty sure the article said they were planning to show some premiership games at the 7.05 slot from next season but I’m not sure if that is going to happen or not.

If it’s not and the premiership clubs have given the championship clubs this deal then it’s a bit shit for us.  

What I just don't understand is how the Premier league teams can gain from teams from a different league being shown on TV ?

I appreciate that some sort of overarching deal was signed to cover TV revenue which is then distributed amongst everyone, however that was surely before BBC arranged this new Friday 7.05pm slot for the Championship on their new channel ?

As such, should any deal not have been renegotiated at this point or a separate pot being put in for distribution to the Championship teams only ??

The clubs are clearly losing out, the fans don't like it and the Chairmen are very unhappy, so why the Hell did they sign up for this would be my question ???

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32 minutes ago, stewartyftd1 said:

Ye Ragin?

Sorry, I'm not fluent in Dothraki ???

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Ye ragin though?

Why would we be raging? We’ve known he was going to leave at the end of the season since the day he signed.

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I wasn’t hugely bothered as he was always leaving and he’s been giving his all the whole season, but if he’s given them the okay to publish it on their website at this stage of the season then he’s gone down quite a bit in my estimations.

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3 hours ago, WATTOO said:

What I just don't understand is how the Premier league teams can gain from teams from a different league being shown on TV ?

I appreciate that some sort of overarching deal was signed to cover TV revenue which is then distributed amongst everyone, however that was surely before BBC arranged this new Friday 7.05pm slot for the Championship on their new channel ?

As such, should any deal not have been renegotiated at this point or a separate pot being put in for distribution to the Championship teams only ??

The clubs are clearly losing out, the fans don't like it and the Chairmen are very unhappy, so why the Hell did they sign up for this would be my question ???

I’m not sure who’s negotiated it, agreed to it and given it the green light. 

What I am sure of is the championship clubs seem to have been given a pretty raw deal. 

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18 minutes ago, NEFarab said:

I’m not sure who’s negotiated it, agreed to it and given it the green light. 

What I am sure of is the championship clubs seem to have been given a pretty raw deal. 

Yes, there's absolutely no doubt about that.

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31 minutes ago, NEFarab said:

I’m not sure who’s negotiated it, agreed to it and given it the green light. 

What I am sure of is the championship clubs seem to have been given a pretty raw deal. 

 

12 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Yes, there's absolutely no doubt about that.

As has been said before, if Championship clubs want to moan that they should keep all the income from the Championship tv broadcast deal, are they also happy to let the Premiership clubs keep all the income from the Premiership broadcast deal? Championship clubs make more money from one Old Firm game than the Premiership clubs in total will be getting from the Championship broadcast deal.

Is the situation ideal for supporters? No, it's not, particularly not ours next weekend, nor Ayr's who seem to have had a disproportionate amound of Friday games to deal with.

But the idea that the tv distribution model is in some way skewed against the Championship clubs overall ir pretty fanciful.

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4 hours ago, WATTOO said:

What I just don't understand is how the Premier league teams can gain from teams from a different league being shown on TV ?

I appreciate that some sort of overarching deal was signed to cover TV revenue which is then distributed amongst everyone, however that was surely before BBC arranged this new Friday 7.05pm slot for the Championship on their new channel ?

As such, should any deal not have been renegotiated at this point or a separate pot being put in for distribution to the Championship teams only ??

The clubs are clearly losing out, the fans don't like it and the Chairmen are very unhappy, so why the Hell did they sign up for this would be my question ???

Because Championship clubs get revenue from Live Premiership matches.

All TV, Sponsorship, and other Money is put into a pot at the end of the season and is awarded to the 42 clubs (and the side relegated from L2).

So if in your case that all the Championship TV money just stayed with Championship clubs, then the total prize pool for all the Championship clubs would be £700,000. Under the current model, the championship winner receives roughly £650,000. So it's a completely pointless argument.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said:

 

As has been said before, if Championship clubs want to moan that they should keep all the income from the Championship tv broadcast deal, are they also happy to let the Premiership clubs keep all the income from the Premiership broadcast deal? Championship clubs make more money from one Old Firm game than the Premiership clubs in total will be getting from the Championship broadcast deal.

Is the situation ideal for supporters? No, it's not, particularly not ours next weekend, nor Ayr's who seem to have had a disproportionate amound of Friday games to deal with.

But the idea that the tv distribution model is in some way skewed against the Championship clubs overall ir pretty fanciful.

 

21 minutes ago, Marr1 said:

Because Championship clubs get revenue from Live Premiership matches.

All TV, Sponsorship, and other Money is put into a pot at the end of the season and is awarded to the 42 clubs (and the side relegated from L2).

So if in your case that all the Championship TV money just stayed with Championship clubs, then the total prize pool for all the Championship clubs would be £700,000. Under the current model, the championship winner receives roughly £650,000. So it's a completely pointless argument.

 

 

You two appear to know all the ins and outs of this "deal", which is much more than the rest of us, however the points I would make here are,

1. The BBC Scotland Friday night coverage wasn't part of this deal when originally negotiated.

2. The Championship Clubs, Chairmen / Boards / Owners, don't appear very happy with this "fantastic" deal.

I'd also be so bold as to insinuate that the Premiership clubs only look after number one, so I can't for the life of me believe that they're doing the Championship clubs a great favour with the current deal.

Call me a cynic, but I prefer realist....................

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24 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

 

You two appear to know all the ins and outs of this "deal", which is much more than the rest of us, however the points I would make here are,

1. The BBC Scotland Friday night coverage wasn't part of this deal when originally negotiated.

2. The Championship Clubs, Chairmen / Boards / Owners, don't appear very happy with this "fantastic" deal.

I'd also be so bold as to insinuate that the Premiership clubs only look after number one, so I can't for the life of me believe that they're doing the Championship clubs a great favour with the current deal.

Call me a cynic, but I prefer realist....................

Well in 2012, the winners of the old First Division received something in the region of £70,000, that's now ten-fold because of the SPFL.

The TV deal is ever-changing and tbh there was 16 Championship games live last season on BBC Alba, and I imagine Alba were paying a lot less than £700k, and no-one was complaining.

Clubs also get a lot in commercial money by having live games on the BBC, I saw one report that missing out on Sportscene Highlights cost us a six-figure amount.

I'm not a massive fan of the 7.05ko time, personally, I would like to see a 7:30pm ko, with the Nine being shortened to half an hour on a Friday - which is what C4 News do.

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