Hawk89 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Had a wee look through the squad lists pinned in the forum earlier, assuming they are all up to date. We are in a fairly decent position numbers and balance wise. A couple of gaps that we all know about. There is a clump of teams with c21 signed up including ourselves, obviously waiting for the Premiership loans and cuts to start filtering down. There are also 2 or 3 with less than 20, Queens Park and Arbroath looking really short at present. I reckon we might start to see some business over the next week with a number of B teams were knocked out last night from the challenge cup. With 3 more playing tonight, it'll probably be too early for the weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliayr76 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 28/07/2022 at 11:17, honestly united said: Thay should have had the new players in before the start of the season,no waiting on other teams casts off's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Aliayr76 said: Thay should have had the new players in before the start of the season,no waiting on other teams casts off's. Every team in the league waits on Premiership loans , and we have done extremely well in this area over the years, I couldn’t name any team who does not get loans in around this time of the loan window 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Finlay21 said: Every team in the league waits on Premiership loans , and we have done extremely well in this area over the years, I couldn’t name any team who does not get loans in around this time of the loan window McCall didn't. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, Aliayr76 said: Thay should have had the new players in before the start of the season,no waiting on other teams casts off's. Are you saying we should have paid a fee to get players in rather than waiting a few weeks to get them on free's / loan? Or that we should have signed more players on free's earlier? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Thumper said: McCall didn't. Apart from Doohan, Kelly, Miller, McKenna, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aliayr76 said: Thay should have had the new players in before the start of the season,no waiting on other teams casts off's. You have to remember we are at the start of a new approach, signing players to multi year deals. Next summer we may be in the position of only needing 3 or 4 players depending on how things pan out and players progress. This was always going to be a bit of a rebuild given the Hopkin effect. No team in the league has a full squad yet, we're in a pretty good place balance and numbers wise compared to others. Have a look at Raith Rovers and their lack of defenders for example. Shankland was a late signing (8th September) and only on a short term deal to prove fitness, appreciate he was a once in a generation type player. But, he was a late release from Aberdeen. Edited August 10, 2022 by Hawk89 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hawk89 said: You have to remember we are at the start of a new approach, signing players to multi year deals. Next summer we may be in the position of only needing 3 or 4 players depending on how things pan out and players progress. This was always going to be a bit of a rebuild given the Hopkin effect. No team in the league has a full squad yet, we're in a pretty good place balance and numbers wise compared to others. Have a look at Raith Rovers and their lack of defenders for example. Shankland was a late signing (8th September) and only on a short term deal to prove fitness, appreciate he was a once in a generation type player. But, he was a late release from Aberdeen. Shankland was released by Aberdeen at the end of the previous season after stinking out a few clubs on loan. The only full time club left he hadn’t been at was Ayr and he had shafted us the season before when he went to Morton rather than us and left McCall twiddling his thumbs in a cafe somewhere. Shankland said he had just been to sports direct to buy footballs because he was going to have to keep himself sharp while he was still looking for potentially a part time club when McCall phoned him. The club said it had several players identified several players in every position and were well prepared for the window. Unless Glendinnings spreadsheet has a list of suitable U21s that will be going out on loan to the championship and we have provisional deals agreed should the players go out on loan, then this statement may have been bollocks. The only things that have been said are by Mathie to say they have approached several ambitious targets who have gone elsewhere and from Bullen who said there isn’t a rush and he didn’t appear bothered if we got more players in or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk89 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: The club said it had several players identified several players in every position and were well prepared for the window. Unless Glendinnings spreadsheet has a list of suitable U21s that will be going out on loan to the championship and we have provisional deals agreed should the players go out on loan, then this statement may have been bollocks. The only things that have been said are by Mathie to say they have approached several ambitious targets who have gone elsewhere and from Bullen who said there isn’t a rush and he didn’t appear bothered if we got more players in or not. To be fair it could be the case that we did have a number of targets, we've just been unable to sign any of them. With the new visa rules making foreign signings far more difficult the number of suiters for domestic signings has increased. Youth prospects appear to have EFL shaped vultures circling above them which will narrow the availability of players to clubs looking at loans. There is also the return of the reserve league, I'm assuming this will mean a reduction in outward loans as well. Unless they are going to be playing players from younger age groups that aren't loan ready to make up the numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Goodwin at Aberdeen has stated that after signing 10 odd players there will be players leaving over the next couple of weeks, not sure on who they have that will fall into that category. Im assuming a lot of the Prem teams will be in the same boat, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee Utd all seem to have signed a lot of players so would expect a bit of a clear out before the window shuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Iain said: Apart from Doohan, Kelly, Miller, McKenna, etc. Doohan, Miller and McKenna were during the winter break (which is a different kettle of fish entirely) and Kelly was early July. This is the second week of August. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoveRangers1922 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, honestly united said: Goodwin at Aberdeen has stated that after signing 10 odd players there will be players leaving over the next couple of weeks, not sure on who they have that will fall into that category. Im assuming a lot of the Prem teams will be in the same boat, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee Utd all seem to have signed a lot of players so would expect a bit of a clear out before the window shuts Word from the Dons fans is the departures will almost certainly be Connor McLennan, David Bates and Marley Watkins. They have a couple of good young lads in Ryan Duncan and Jack Milne but JG wants to keep them in amongst the first team until at least January. Agreed on the other SPL teams mentioned, they should all have surplus players who are candidates for a Championship loan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Thumper said: Doohan, Miller and McKenna were during the winter break (which is a different kettle of fish entirely) and Kelly was early July. This is the second week of August. I thought Doohan signed before the 1st league cup game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 Difference between McCall and now is that he never really had to undertake an overhaul of the squad after we won the league. I think we added four players in Doohan, Harvie, Murdoch and then Smith. Although Smith wasn’t added until after we’d played a few league games. It’s really not unusual for clubs like us to be looking at adding a couple of extra players towards the end of the window. I’m sure we got Cammy Smith a bit later on as we had to wait for Dundee United to get their squad sorted before the started loaning players out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thumper said: McCall didn't. Liam Smith 14th August , as Hearts would not loan him the club gave McCall the money to sign him , lots of players get signed and loaned near end of August when found to be surplus’s to requirement at their clubs Edited August 10, 2022 by Finlay21 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 We are evidently still very short of quality in the final third, but four points from our first two games have saved the club from a load of criticism. Still, I would expect it to be solved very soon - as the days roll on this weekend is looking unlikely too though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 It’s not just quality it is quantity, our experience in the squad is limited to maybe 12-14 players. A couple of injuries and we are in crisis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 The manager has said he is looking to bring in another couple on top of Bangala , like many other managers will be waiting on it I think the loan window will become busy very shortly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I see we lost 3-2 to Partick in a friendly at Firhill yesterday - there are some highlights of sort on their Twitter page filmed from some unusual angles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 I think we could end up with someone like McLennan from Aberdeen. Not exactly the experienced forward we need but he’s also not really a complete youngster anymore. Career has stagnated at Aberdeen and needs a kick start elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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