The Ultimate Super Ayr Thread

[ryanayr1987]

2 minutes ago, Robbo63 said:

Cheers , oh well let’s us prepare for a very big game on Saturday 

Any news on Dre? 

[Hursty]

Im happy with that.   Full week to focus on Arbroath now.  Absolutely must win.  Certainly wont be easy as they are top of the form table and have already beaten us but still one we must be taking the 3 points from.  

[Finlay21]

1 minute ago, ryanayr1987 said:

Any news on Dre? 

He was definitely out for tonight , small chance of Saturday , 

[pogo1910]

2 minutes ago, ryanayr1987 said:

Any news on Dre? 

Oh aye, he slipped my mind

 

[UpInTheAyr]

Bringing in another coach now would just seem like Kerr admitting he's struggling, which doesn't bestow confidence from the fans, or probably the players. Always thought a manager had to have a even when I'm wrong I'm right type mentality most of the time, always kinda got that from McCall.

[Rodders1910]

Quite true , a couple who left would have made a massive difference to this team with their leadership and commitment levels , still think we should have appointed another coach , McCall always worked with 3 ( including goalkeeping coach ) and at one time actually had 4 , where as Kerr ( or club) decided to stick with the 2 

How many coaches do teams usually have in this division? 2 really doesn't seem like enough, wonder if we only stuck with 2 to free up wages for another player?

[Lochwood]

This get another coach thing is nonsense he went for the job and has to stand on his own, he could have brought an experienced coach or kept Stewart which I was amazed he didn’t, went down the route of sports science so he has to pay the piper if it doesn't work out. Dodged a bullet with the Dundee game off but no excuses he must win the game on Saturday or it’s time up sorry to say as I like him.

[super_carson]

I think it would be quite a big admission from Kerr if he were to bring another coach in, but I'd personally respect him for it.  Having the guts to admit you need a hand with something, especially when starting out, is quite an underrated quality.  That all said, I am sure availability and finances may dictate the likelihood of this as much as anything.  

I'd love to see Kerr do well - I liked him as a player and he seems to come across as a good guy - but we can't give him unlimited time.  I can have sympathy that he's trying to cut his teeth as a manager in the midst of a pandemic that has undoubtedly thrown up unprecedented challenges for any manager.  I also understand that he had to virtually build a new time after loosing so many experienced heads in the summer and getting them to gel is hard enough, but it's compounded by the fact there is no off-field socialising. 

But none of those things are unique to Ayr or to Kerr as a manager.  I know the league is very tight, and a couple of positive results would see us launch up the table but I've not seen the consistency in performances to suggest that's coming.  Saturday was as an insipid performance as I've seen in a long, long time and we just looked utterly directionless.  I really can't emphasises how much I want him to do well here, but Kerr has to be fast running out of games if he can't turn it around and while that would be a real shame Ayr cannot afford to run the risk of relegation in the hope he comes good.  

[Finlay21]

12 minutes ago, Lochwood said:

This get another coach thing is nonsense he went for the job and has to stand on his own, he could have brought an experienced coach or kept Stewart which I was amazed he didn’t, went down the route of sports science so he has to pay the piper if it doesn't work out. Dodged a bullet with the Dundee game off but no excuses he must win the game on Saturday or it’s time up sorry to say as I like him.

Get another coach is not nonsense if you take into account most are saying he should have done it when appointed , Sandy Stewart was offered a position on the coaching team but decided against it I was told 

[malkyshotton]

And then they all left

Stevie Bell leaving was to me the one that was most bizarre. Having committed himself then only days/weeks later saying he couldn’t commit. Maybe he seen this coming and didn’t fancy it. Think he would have been ideal in this situation.

[Finlay21]

Just now, malkyshotton said:

 

Stevie Bell leaving was to me the one that was most bizarre. Having committed himself then only days/weeks later saying he couldn’t commit. Maybe he seen this coming and didn’t fancy it. Think he would have been ideal in this situation.

 

With the squad assembled I honestly cannot see where you think Bell saw it coming , Bell left on great terms and got to give him respect when he said family and full time job had to come first as he knew he could not commit to full time training especially with the pandemic due to the importance of his main salaried job 

[Rodders1910]

Bell seems like the sort of guy we need in as a coach, someone to give everyone a kick up the arse but at the same time well liked

[malkyshotton]

With the squad assembled I honestly cannot see where you think Bell saw it coming , Bell left on great terms and got to give him respect when he said family and full time job had to come first as he knew he could not commit to full time training especially with the pandemic due to the importance of his main salaried job 

Never said “I think” that’s why he left, was just questioning which is different. Fair enough if he left for those reasons but guys like him are a big miss. As it stands we don’t have anyone in the team like him and we’re sorely missing an experienced leader on the park.

[Finlay21]

1 minute ago, malkyshotton said:

Never said “I think” that’s why he left, was just questioning which is different. Fair enough if he left for those reasons but guys like him are a big miss. As it stands we don’t have anyone in the team like him and we’re sorely missing an experienced leader on the park.

Totally agree with you , the lack of a true leader on the pitch is worrying, 

[Lochwood]

Respect your view Robbo but don’t agree with you and who knows whether Stewart knocked back the position only Stewart could tell you that, easy for Kerr to leak that and say that if that’s what you heard?The only route for Kerr has to be a player coach a leader on the park especially in the middle of the park and who would see this as a chance to wind down his career and get coaching experience I’m sure there will be plenty in that category. The only problem with that is he will be a threat to him going forward and that’s why he’ll be hesitant in that.

[Thereisalight..]

21 hours ago, paulbrucerick said:

A wee change of tack. Found myself 'walking down the Somerset Road' today and was gladdened to see the preparation for the Hub. Over the years we have seen or heard of plans for development which came to nothing, its just nice to see something actually happening. 

I've been going to games since 1998. I must have been to a few hundred home games and I've honestly never noticed that house before! My eyes must be fixed on the magnificent floodlights

[Hursty]

5 hours ago, Lochwood said:

This get another coach thing is nonsense he went for the job and has to stand on his own, he could have brought an experienced coach or kept Stewart which I was amazed he didn’t, went down the route of sports science so he has to pay the piper if it doesn't work out. Dodged a bullet with the Dundee game off but no excuses he must win the game on Saturday or it’s time up sorry to say as I like him.

What a load of bollocks.   Basically saying a manager has to stick to his guns no matter what even if he feels it's not working.     It's literally the exact same as saying he shouldn't be allowed to try a different formation as he went down the route of 4-2-3-1 and has to 'pay the piper' if it doesnt work.    

For what it's worth, I think he SHOULD be looking to bring someone else in and also SHOULD be looking to change formation but not convinced he will do either.  

[Guest]

Some of the stuff on here is just WAYYYYYY over the top, I mean anyone would think we were the pre season league favourites and that we've now found ourselves completely cast adrift at the bottom and being outclassed and outplayed in every single game, but of course the reality is somewhat different.

All the stuff being aimed at Kerr could be aimed at virtually every other Manager in the league and that includes Neilson. Basically one look at the league table tells you that the teams are all much of a muchness outwith Hearts who are probably still under performing relative to their budget and then Dundee who are probably doing worst of all.

I do know that we're not playing well and I do know that we have problems however there really is a serious over reaction to our current league position.

All the stuff about McCall "the messiah" is also rather amusing, as Yes, we did play some great stuff but we also played some horrific stuff and funnily enough it was generally between December and March, however people seem to be omitting that from the selective wonderful memories.

[Trogdor]

Wow, some trumpian deflection going on here. 

[Hursty]

Anyway - now that the Dundee game is out the way we all of a sudden have a double Header of an on form but hardly unbeatable Arbroath at home)and a decent weather forecast so we cant have the usual excuses for a bad result against them) then Morton away who are 8 games without a win.  Both teams who we overtake if we win games in hand and would look pretty decent if we win both, but are in a bit of bother if we lose them. 

It's almost as perfect a double to judge a manager under pressure on as you are going to get, as its two games that with the squad we built / backing & budget we must have we absolutely have to be looking to win.  

6 points from those two and theres not really any argument to not give Kerr the rest of the season.   0 - 2 points and you're maybe struggling to justify keeping him on.