The Ultimate Super Ayr Thread

[AyrExile]

9 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:

You can have it both ways you know.

In a lot of games this season it looks like the players are playing as though they’re in a training match. And that goes for opposition players as well. Having crowds in can give the players a bit of an atmosphere to play to and give have an impact especially when they score or concede a goal. There’s no doubt that the boo boys would’ve been on the backs of certain players this season but that can sometimes help players depending on their mentality. But you’re not going to tell me that you’d be better at your job with someone within earshot of you screaming obscenities at you?

My point is having crowds in would’ve made games a bit different this season for all the teams. It’s not going to make players better but it might’ve helped players stay switched on which seemed to be our issue when it came to the quick fire goals we’ve conceded and collapses away from home.

I am of the opinion that when sports people take the field much of the crowd noise gets ignored as they are more focussed on the job. Some players will react differently but in the main it is a sideshow. Reckon they would be more worried about why the manager says than the fans. If you feel the players are going through the motions then that’s the managers job to raise the levels. 

We are having a mixed season tbf and it seems talking about crowd noise deflects from other areas that may need looked at. . From the posts above I would be disappointed if the management team were given a new deal regardless next season. Hope they have a strong finish but it should be judged at seasons end and not a free covid pass handed out 

 

[.buzzy01]

Anderson is gone. Let’s live with it. Let’s see how many goals he scores between now and the end is season. Not many I suspect.

[ayrunitedfw]

44 minutes ago, .buzzy01 said:

Anderson is gone. Let’s live with it. Let’s see how many goals he scores between now and the end is season. Not many I suspect.

Hopefully enough to send the vermin down. 

[Guest]

To say the views among our fans is "varied" would be understatement of the year !!

Some think we have good players but a useless Manager, some think we've got poor players and a poor Manager, some believe that the Manager has done ok in the circumstances but the players aren't helping and are underachieving and there's even a few who believe that the both the managers and players are promising and that it could all come together sooner or later.

 We've then got some who think we're looking at relegation, others think we're mid table certainties and some believe that we've still a great chance of the promotion play offs. 

AAH, the delights of supporting the mighty Ayr United.........

[pandarilla]

To say the views among our fans is "varied" would be understatement of the year !!
Some think we have good players but a useless Manager, some think we've got poor players and a poor Manager, some believe that the Manager has done ok in the circumstances but the players aren't helping and are underachieving and there's even a few who believe that the both the managers and players are promising and that it could all come together sooner or later.
 We've then got some who think we're looking at relegation, others think we're mid table certainties and some believe that we've still a great chance of the promotion play offs. 
AAH, the delights of supporting the mighty Ayr United.........

Same for literally every club, chief.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

39 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

To say the views among our fans is "varied" would be understatement of the year !!
Some think we have good players but a useless Manager, some think we've got poor players and a poor Manager, some believe that the Manager has done ok in the circumstances but the players aren't helping and are underachieving and there's even a few who believe that the both the managers and players are promising and that it could all come together sooner or later.
 We've then got some who think we're looking at relegation, others think we're mid table certainties and some believe that we've still a great chance of the promotion play offs. 
AAH, the delights of supporting the mighty Ayr United.........

Same for literally every club, chief.

Yes, could you imagine what a fantasy midfield of Robbie Crawford, Chris Aitken and Paul Sheerin would do to some !!

Early grave stuff.

[Jazzar]

Another game off - at this rate we'll need a pre-season before we play a league game again 

[ayrunitedfw]

10 minutes ago, Jazzar said:

Another game off - at this rate we'll need a pre-season before we play a league game again 

Lol wot? We literally played a game on Friday night? 

[AYRSHIRE_ANGUS]

We've only got two outstanding league games plus the Elgin cup tie I think?

[Hursty]

15 hours ago, rb123! said:

Yes because he's not upfront isolated on his own, feeding off hoof balls which are ending up about 10 yards either side of where he was positioned. Think with a 3 of Walsh/Smith/McCowan behind him we might have got a bit more out of him.

However the fundamental issue for me is Kerr seems hellbent on playing 1 upfront on his own, which seems to be "modern" way to play football compared to the old fashioned 4/4/2. In our last two games with Wright upfront on his own i've already seen instances, Hearts game especially, where he held up the ball well and the nearest person to lay if off to was nowhere to be seen. 

Think Kerr should try Smith upfront with Wright to do a similar role which Moffatt did alongside Shankland. Would be intrigued to know how many goals we scored in McCall's last 30 games compared to Kerrs first 30. I'd expect the difference to be quite staggering...

Re: the last part, by my reckoning the last 30 games under McCall (starting with the 0-1 v Talbot and ending with 4-0 v Alloa saw 45 goals scored in 30 games.    We then scored 5 in 3 under Stewart / Kerr, and in the first 30 games under Kerr (starting with the 1-2 v Dundee and most recently the 0-1 v Hearts) we have scored 36.   

Interestingly we have only failed to score once more in those 30 game samples under Kerr (8 blanks compared to 7).  Both of them are actually helped quite a bit by Betfred Cup - McCall got 7 v East Stirling and Kerr got 5 v Albion Rovs.

We actually only managed 1 goal in the previous 4 games under McCall  so IF you were to use a 34 game sample instead of 30 the scores would be pretty close (46-42).  

Yes I'm sad enough to keep track of results / scorers among other stats haha.

[Finlay21]

47 minutes ago, Hursty said:

Re: the last part, by my reckoning the last 30 games under McCall (starting with the 0-1 v Talbot and ending with 4-0 v Alloa saw 45 goals scored in 30 games.    We then scored 5 in 3 under Stewart / Kerr, and in the first 30 games under Kerr (starting with the 1-2 v Dundee and most recently the 0-1 v Hearts) we have scored 36.   

Interestingly we have only failed to score once more in those 30 game samples under Kerr (8 blanks compared to 7).  Both of them are actually helped quite a bit by Betfred Cup - McCall got 7 v East Stirling and Kerr got 5 v Albion Rovs.

We actually only managed 1 goal in the previous 4 games under McCall  so IF you were to use a 34 game sample instead of 30 the scores would be pretty close (46-42).  

Yes I'm sad enough to keep track of results / scorers among other stats haha.

Good post , also take into account that under McCalls 34 games we had a settled team   who had played together for a good majority of those game , where as Kerr has mainly had to gel a practically new team in around half of his reign , yes we have not performed to our capabilities at the start of season but can see some green shoots beginning to come through , if you look throughout the league with the exception of Hearts and Raith Rovers I think most teams have underperformed at various times so far 

[ayrunitedfw]

1 hour ago, AYRSHIRE_ANGUS said:

We've only got two outstanding league games plus the Elgin cup tie I think?

Yeah, Dundee away and now Raith away. I’d be happy for the Scottish Cup to be scrapped this season and the free weeks used for teams to catch up on covid/weather related postponements

41 minutes ago, Robbo63 said:

Good post , also take into account that under McCalls 34 games we had a settled team   who had played together for a good majority of those game , where as Kerr has mainly had to gel a practically new team in around half of his reign , yes we have not performed to our capabilities at the start of season but can see some green shoots beginning to come through , if you look throughout the league with the exception of Hearts and Raith Rovers I think most teams have underperformed at various times so far 

One thing I’ll say in defence of Kerr and the players is in these current circumstances it must be a lot more difficult to bond with team mates etc. Where as in normal circumstances they will car share and I’d imagine socialise away from football. 

[callum-ayr]

I think this season is a write off. Won’t go up or down I don’t think. This is Kerrs first full season in charge and with COVID it’s been a real testing one. I think he should be offered a new deal and that would hopefully in turn show the players who may be uncertain about their futures to sign on again. To be honest, there’s not much in the way of decent managers available and I’d rather see Kerr continue his vision with the club than start from scratch. I don’t think he’s a million miles away from getting a really good side to hopefully challenge that little bit further for promotion. 

[Finlay21]

1 hour ago, ayrunitedfw said:

One thing I’ll say in defence of Kerr and the players is in these current circumstances it must be a lot more difficult to bond with team mates etc. Where as in normal circumstances they will car share and I’d imagine socialise away from football. 

I think that is a very valid point Fraser , we seem to come across as a very friendly club off the field  and many players have mentioned that in the past , we have 5 players this season who have moved into rented accommodation and the only contact they have with any other player is the on field training sessions and then home to empty houses , must be tough for them ( along with any other teams who have players in similar position ) 

Edited February 12, 2021 by Robbo63

[Jazzar]

4 hours ago, AYRSHIRE_ANGUS said:

We've only got two outstanding league games plus the Elgin cup tie I think?

Ye, but every day feels like a week these days 

[ayrunitedfw]

59 minutes ago, Robbo63 said:

I think that is a very valid point Fraser , we seem to come across as a very friendly club off the field  and many players have mentioned that in the past , we have 5 players this season who have moved into rented accommodation and the only contact they have with any other player is the on field training sessions and then home to empty houses , must be tough for them ( along with any other teams who have players in similar position ) 

Are Corrie Ndaba and Brett McGavin living together given they are team mates at Ipswich?

[wuffster]

3 minutes ago, Jazzar said:

Ye, but every day feels like a week these days 

No kidding. It seems like a really stop/start season but probably has been no worse than others. I'm even contemplating watching the Doonhammers on the TV tonight.

[Finlay21]

3 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said:

Are Corrie Ndaba and Brett McGavin living together given they are team mates at Ipswich?

They are all in separate accommodation due to most being 1 bedrooms 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Jazzar said:

Another game off - at this rate we'll need a pre-season before we play a league game again 

Looking good for Summer Football and fans being back ???

[diegomarahenry]

This season is going to end like a junior season, Twill think they are safe in a play-off position forgetting about Inverness and their twelve games in hand.