Trogdor Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, AyrExile said: I thought the large hike in season ticket price was to fund our title challenge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I'd like to give McPake a go, he's certainly an exciting talent even if he didn't have the best of times at Dundee, the hope is he's learned from it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Get this small time mentality to f**k. AyeI don’t think it’s realistic to say we should be going for the title unless it becomes apparent early on that Hearts have made an arse of recruitment but top 4 is perfectly attainable for us and 3 or 4 other clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: Aye I don’t think it’s realistic to say we should be going for the title unless it becomes apparent early on that Hearts have made an arse of recruitment but top 4 is perfectly attainable for us and 3 or 4 other clubs. Aye second should be the aim this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, North British said: On the other hand rock stars and pre Madonna’s need not apply ! I think the likes of Elaine Paige or Shirley Bassey are a bit auld for the fitba’, mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ayrunitedfw said: Aye second should be the aim this season. In which case, the ops statement of "The title isn't out asperation" isn't wrong is it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Grant228 said: In which case, the ops statement of "The title isn't out asperation" isn't wrong is it? Because I was meaning in general our aim should always be to win the league. This season is clearly an exception to the rule as a massive club like hearts are in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHonestman1910 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 I still expect Hearts, Dundee, Dunfermline and Inverness to be ahead by the end of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, THEHonestman1910 said: I still expect Hearts, Dundee, Dunfermline and Inverness to be ahead by the end of the season. I would remove Inverness , lost the majority of their top players and are skint to replace with anywhere near the quality of the ones who left , I reckon we will be challenging the other 3 Edited August 3, 2020 by Robbo63 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHonestman1910 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robbo63 said: I would remove Inverness , lost the majority of their top players and are skint to replace with anywhere near the quality of the ones who left , I reckon we will be challenging the other 3 John Robertson is the best manager in the league for me and has always had Inverness in the top 3. Despite the fact that they've lost their best players, I'm still expecting them to re-build well and get top 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North British Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, THEHonestman1910 said: 20 minutes ago, Robbo63 said: John Robertson is the best manager in the league for me and has always had Inverness in the top 3. Despite the fact that they've lost their best players, I'm still expecting them to re-build well and get top 4 Correct . If Robertson was at Dundee , Hearts or Dunfermline then they’d be in great shape . Not righting us off completely, but we’ll have a pretty young side ! The 27 games might just suit us though ! 2nd gives you a big chance in the play offs . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, THEHonestman1910 said: John Robertson is the best manager in the league for me and has always had Inverness in the top 3. Despite the fact that they've lost their best players, I'm still expecting them to re-build well and get top 4. Inverness have had ‘money troubles’ quite frequently and it doesn’t seem to stop them getting a decent team on the park. Perhaps this time is different but I would still expect to seen them come good 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: Because I was meaning in general our aim should always be to win the league. This season is clearly an exception to the rule as a massive club like hearts are in it. I would say Hearts are on a level with Dundee Utd and after giving them a skelping at their own place not so long ago I think the aura has rubbed off a litlle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Hearts seem 'bigger' because they walked this league the last time they were in it. Times change though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 with a shorter season, getting off to a good start would be a huge advantage, but that was more McCall's thing and we've yet to see if it carries over with Kerr. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Dunfermline have recruited well but there are still questions on Crawfords ability as a manager. Signing names doesn't guarantee success but it can drag you to top four. Hearts have Neilson who "won" the championship at a canter last season, normally a situation where you become a club hero, yet most fans were glad he left. Had he a lesser player than Shankland up front, The league would have been a lot closer. Depending on who leaves/escapes and who they bring in, the league is Hearts to lose at the moment. Dundee were poor last year and they don't look like they have improved much so far this year. Hearts being in the league can be seen as an excuse not to try to win it and settle for top 4, Dundee will be the second biggest team in the league but I doubt they will challenge for the title. Inverness have lost a lot of talent and don't have the money to replace it directly, being located where they are also has drawbacks but I expect they will somehow manage to produce a team of 11 giants that manage top 4 again 15 minutes ago, UpInTheAyr said: with a shorter season, getting off to a good start would be a huge advantage, but that was more McCall's thing and we've yet to see if it carries over with Kerr. If it finished at Christmas, we could have been promoted by now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) I expect us to be challenging for the title (at worst for part of the season). That's my default summer position, happy to adjust that down if that isn't happening. Playoff final is less weighted in the Premiership team's favour this year given they'll have played 6 games more when it comes around, I'd expect the Championship team to win it this year unless it is Hearts. Edited August 3, 2020 by itzdrk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, diegomarahenry said: Dunfermline have recruited well but there are still questions on Crawfords ability as a manager. Signing names doesn't guarantee success but it can drag you to top four. Absolutely fair, if we had a more competent manager I'd be v bullish about our chances, however, are there not big question marks over Kerr as a manager also though? Wikipedia says (And of course it's never wrong) That Kerr won 7 out of his first 21 games? Losing 9 and drawing 5. That's not great when you consider he took over one of the strongest sides in the division. He's actually got a worse win percentage than Crawford at his time at EEP, and Crawford took over a v poor side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North British Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Kerr’s start was ify but we are clinging onto the three 1-0’s against both highland teams and the Pars in Jan/Feb . These were results we found very hard to get previously , we managed to play a different way pick up six points and progress onto the next round of the cup . This was Kerr’s high water line . He has much to prove but in October he will have”his” team on the park , so excuses will start to become limited ! Time will tell . I have a feeling we’ll finish between 5th and 3rd . Where the goals are coming from is my main concern! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Absolutely fair, if we had a more competent manager I'd be v bullish about our chances, however, are there not big question marks over Kerr as a manager also though? Wikipedia says (And of course it's never wrong) That Kerr won 7 out of his first 21 games? Losing 9 and drawing 5. That's not great when you consider he took over one of the strongest sides in the division. He's actually got a worse win percentage than Crawford at his time at EEP, and Crawford took over a v poor side. Yeah from him taking over until January it was poor. He didn’t have the players to play the way he wanted and even though we had been doing well our defence was still pretty poor and the squad as a whole was light on numbers. Once he brought Drinan in and started to change the way we played it got better. We beat Ross County and ICT for the first time in forever and although we weren’t as attacking as we had been we were a bit more street smart in games. I’d say after he made these changes the only really bad performance we had was at home to Morton where we battered them for 15 mins then just gave up. We drew with the Dundee teams when we easily could’ve won and gave them nothing all game. Still big question marks over him but I’m happy for now to have him in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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