LeodhasXD Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Love it. Mark Kerr on Rocksport saying the Ayr boys are happy that Alloa have picked up the wins because we helped them win the league last season. We just need these scenes on the final day of the season: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartyftd1 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Sorry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Timing suspicious and nothing official. In any case pre-contracts are not legally enforceable so Liam can still go where he wishes depending on how the season and play-offs finish. If true and should Ayr United go up, a long shot I know, it would be interesting to see what happens but realistically unless that happens he is offski for sure. Pretty sure he could do a lot better than going to Dundee Utd though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 He's an idiot if he's signed a pre contract with a club with no guarantees of being in a better league than us, if it had been Ross County who are destined for the premiership fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 This makes playing Smith for the rest of the season a tough call for McCall. What possible reason could he have for wanting Ayr to go up rather than the team he'll be playing for next season? No matter how honest a player, it just makes no sense for him to see his current team promoted at the expense of his next team. Big judgment call. Geggan could fill the spot adequately on a short term basis. The manager will need to be 100% certain he's getting Smith's best effort to put him back out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 19 hours ago, super_carson said: Well, if Neilson’s quote about making sure they get out of the league doesn’t half smack of “we’re financially gubbed if we don’t”... You're probably reading a bit too much into it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Yid_in_Exiile said: Timing suspicious and nothing official. In any case pre-contracts are not legally enforceable so Liam can still go where he wishes depending on how the season and play-offs finish. If true and should Ayr United go up, a long shot I know, it would be interesting to see what happens but realistically unless that happens he is offski for sure. Pretty sure he could do a lot better than going to Dundee Utd though... Sure, in the same way that your employment contract isn't enforceable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Iain said: This makes playing Smith for the rest of the season a tough call for McCall. What possible reason could he have for wanting Ayr to go up rather than the team he'll be playing for next season? No matter how honest a player, it just makes no sense for him to see his current team promoted at the expense of his next team. Big judgment call. Geggan could fill the spot adequately on a short term basis. The manager will need to be 100% certain he's getting Smith's best effort to put him back out there. This nonsense is exactly what the Arabs are trying to sow. IF - and it is a big if - he's signed a pre-contract it would probably have been done back in January when all the rumours were swirling and not now at the time of this (at best) deliberately timed leak. Liam has been, and is continuing to, do fine. Just ignore all this stuff and play the lad. The pre-contract is totally meaningless - literally as he can sign for whoever he likes when the season is done and dusted and Dundee Utd can do absolutely squat about it. Move on. Non-story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Sure, in the same way that your employment contract isn't enforceable. WTF? I don't think you know the meaning of a contract. Employment contracts are enforceable you moron. Pre-contracts (the clue is in the title) are not. I negotiate contracts for a living. Edited April 11, 2019 by Yid_in_Exiile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartyftd1 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Timing suspicious and nothing official. In any case pre-contracts are not legally enforceable so Liam can still go where he wishes depending on how the season and play-offs finish. If true and should Ayr United go up, a long shot I know, it would be interesting to see what happens but realistically unless that happens he is offski for sure. Pretty sure he could do a lot better than going to Dundee Utd though...Like who exactly? Diddys like St Johnstone, Killie or Motherwell? St Mirren or Hamilton?Just sounds like a bit of bitterness imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, Yid_in_Exiile said: FTK? I don't think you know the meaning of a contract. Employment contracts are enforceable you moron. Pre-contracts (the clue is in the title) are not. I negotiate contracts for a living. Not a fan of irony, I presume. Are you a lawyer too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 No. Are you a professional moron? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 If it is true then it was done a while ago. Quite cute though that Dundee United are that feart they’ve decided to go all Malcolm Tucker on us and leak it right before they play us and not long before the play-offs. They must be shiting it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yid_in_Exiile said: No. Are you a professional moron? How rude. No, not a professional moron. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Ah, just an amateur then. My irony-meter just broke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Like who exactly? Diddys like St Johnstone, Killie or Motherwell? St Mirren or Hamilton?Just sounds like a bit of bitterness imo.All Diddy teams that are in the league above you... What does that call your club then, the ultimate Diddy club? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, Yid_in_Exiile said: Ah, just an amateur then. My irony-meter just broke. I'm going to add irony to the list of things you apparently don't understand. 1. Pre-contract agreements 2. Common civility 3. Irony 4. ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I understand contract law just fine thanks. Okay - let's just keep this factual then. The enforceability of a pre-contract will depend on the specific terms of the agreement. Pre-contracts are generally not binding under English law as they are usually marked ‘Subject to Contract’ and are simply a commitment by the parties to enter into a later contract. The difference between a pre-contract and a contract is that the parties to the pre-contract have not agreed the essential terms and so the pre-contract does not reflect the final agreement. However, if a pre-contract contains all the essential terms that have been agreed, then the pre-contract is effectively a final contract and is likely to be binding. To sum up - only if the Pre-Contact is effectively a Contract with all the terms and considerations agreed with just the inception date deferred then, just like other contracts, is is enforceable. If it is just a commitment to contract it's not. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartyftd1 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 All Diddy teams that are in the league above you... What does that call your club then, the ultimate Diddy club? League below or not we are a bigger club than those I’ve just stated. Surely you can accept that we have bigger aspirations than these teams? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Big club wanking. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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