The Clyde FC 2018-19 Thread

[BroadwoodBoy]

Wilson was the young lad with long blonde hair. He was at fault for 3/4 of the Ayr goals that night. 

[Karpaty]

2 hours ago, haufdaft said:

The manager has stated that "We will be looking to secure some exciting young loan signings from big clubs north and south of the border. We will also be looking to make some quality signings of players with a proven track record".

 

I trust him to do that.

 

As do I. Not offering McStay a contract would be total insanity though. 

[haufdaft]

As do I. Not offering McStay a contract would be total insanity though. 

I wouldn't complain if McStay was here next season.

[Karpaty]

5 minutes ago, haufdaft said:

8 minutes ago, Karpaty said:

As do I. Not offering McStay a contract would be total insanity though. 

I wouldn't complain if McStay was here next season.

He’s the sort of player along with Goodwillie that we should build the team around.

[BrigtonClyde]

Listened to the interview with Innes last night.

Thought he was in the main on point, but as soon as I heard him question the professionalism of the journalistic approach in the tabloids to the stories, quite correctly incidentally, you could sense the knives being sharpened back in the studio and predictably the two hacks reverted to type.

Nothing wrong with the two of them taking issue with what he said if they could put forward a coherent argument, but they were absolutely all over the place, raging mainly because their declining industry was being questioned.

The guy from the Mail in effect seriously put forward the idea that as he personally had spoken to Rabin Omar, that he was a student and had come from a difficult background, then the default position was that we should take at face value everything he said.  He then went on to say there had been multiple witnesses without being able to name them, quote a number and accepting that none of the Clyde players or match officials witnessed anything.  As far as I know it was one or two of his teammates who acted as witnesses, and that's "multiple".  Absolutely incredible for what's supposed to be an experienced journalist.

As for Tom English, I was blushing for him.    For a journalist to propose that again people should take at face value judgements based on very little in the way of evidence, especially as it's highly unlikely he feels the same way about a number of issues from his own home country, was excruciating.   He seemed to have taken a pre-determined position without understanding anything and only the programme's host kept it balanced by reminding the pair of them what Innes had actually said and presenting some basic, factual, legal points to explain why the club had taken its decision.  

He then described Clyde as hypocrites while then going on to be one himself.  The two players maintain their innocence (as was pointed out by the programme's host).  English then holds up an Irish rugby player as a shining example, because while accused but cleared of rape with other teammates, he showed contrition in a subsequent statement.  So that's alright then ?  The player had been sacked by his club and is looking for a new one, the statement was smart thinking.

The MSP's and hacks had also lined up to accuse Clyde of hypocrisy describing themselves as a family club while continuing to employ the two players.  OK, well presumably all clubs including the Old Firm would describe themselves likewise, so we'll look forward to every one of these characters making a very loud and equally scatching attack TODAY on everything associated with these two clubs......or is it different when you're taking into account voting and circulation numbers ?

Brutal stuff

Still, at least Danny seems to be getting his plans together for the new season, sounds like there'll be some very decent signings on the way

     

[Gene Wilder]

As do I. Not offering McStay a contract would be total insanity though. 

We have. But hes considering his options

[Cowden Cowboy]

The problem here is though Cowden that most of what you've quoted existed in the 90's.  Of course costs rise, but not to the point that far exceeds inflation in the way admission prices have.

Pension schemes now are far cheaper than they were since the removal of defined benefits or final salary schemes, the relaxation of regulations 15 years ago also reducing the minimum contribution levels.  If the players wages have risen so dramatically in excess of RPI while the standard has decreased or even at best remained the same, the clubs are accountable.  These players don't have streets paved with gold waiting for them elsewhere, they should be on modest basics in line with minimum wage (which in itself is around what they were paid 30 years ago), with performance / results related incentives added, typically win bonuses.  That's how it used to be when the standard was far greater.   The transfer income has disappeared for an obvious reason, the players being produced now wouldn't  generate one.  And incidentally, if your I.T. costs are high, something's very far wrong

But for the sake of argument, let's take what you've said at face value.  It all relates to incurred costs and earlier I mentioned the two factors, costs & demand, so bottom line, clubs are desperate for cash.

How are you going to attract new supporters to aleviate all of this if the current overpriced structure ultimately becomes outpriced?  Is the entire business model to place an extra burden each year on what you already have, and if so, do you think that's sustainable ?

In January during the winter break for Premier clubs, Pollok played at home against Arthurlie I think it was.  They got a crowd of 2000.  None of those attending thought they were about to watch Messi, but knew the kind of standard they'd likely see.  The reason they went along was because it was appropriately priced at £5...nip along, watch a kick about.  So they made £10k.  Do you honestly think that if the admission was £10 they'd have attracted even half that crowd to generate the same income?  That's fantasy land.

All the clubs need to start thinking outside the box, they are being told you are too expensive, the Stirling lad's example a case in point.  Two people paying £7 to get in generates more than one declining at £13.  It's no use clubs shrugging their shoulders and saying "that's just the way it is" while looking around a deserted ground.   Nobody is legally obliged to go to a football game, they can, and do, reply,  "£13 ?  Nah, no chance, that's just the way it is".

But have heard this all before - fans put forward such thoughts but in many cases fans cross the divide and end up running the club. Then they find it is a lot more complicated than they thought and cut pricing offers don't pay the bills nor does paying lower wages attract fans - it attracts less. You are perpetuating a stereotype that most club directors are clueless on these things and that if only they went along with what fans wanted on pricing everything would be rosy - however the bottom line is directors have to worry about cashflow now, in the present and near future - that is a key responsibility. I understand the Pollok example and most clubs would do likewise if they assessed it would produce a cash upside or other worthwhile benefit

[the_bully_wee]

Currie, Stewart, McNiff, Nicoll and Duffie all sign new one-year deals. Happy enough with that lot.

[Back Beach]

Wouldn’t it be great if Clyde were drawn away to Brora Rangers in Scottish Cup to end your campaign in that at the first hurdle. B’Jesus that would be fun. Lovely to be back

[SLClyde]

4 minutes ago, Back Beach said:

Wouldn’t it be great if Clyde were drawn away to Brora Rangers in Scottish Cup to end your campaign in that at the first hurdle. B’Jesus that would be fun. Lovely to be back

What are you on ya looney, Scottish cup talk in may. We'll pump you out again anyway. 

Pleased to see those 5 sign, especially keeping that defence together. 

[David W]

Full backs, that's that ticked off. Duffie with a proper pre-season should be terrific. Not going to get much better than those two at this level. 

[Dindeleux]

For the record the Pollok vs Arthurlie crowd in January was reported at 1125 by the club. Not the 2000 claimed on this thread.

[shawfield shed boy]

Kevin Nicoll [emoji173][emoji836][emoji835]

 

 

[Clydeontheup]

Happy with those. All would have been borderline until Danny came in and got the best from them.

just need captain kev to cut back a bit on the cards next season.

[Clyde01]

Wouldn’t it be great if Clyde were drawn away to Brora Rangers in Scottish Cup to end your campaign in that at the first hurdle. B’Jesus that would be fun. Lovely to be back

It’s been a while since we gave you complete diddies a bodying. How did your highland league title challenge go?

And how’s your manager, he left you yet? Oh he has left you, I forgot about that.

[cfcuk]

Have doubts about Currie/ mcniff but if Danny Lennon wants them for next season certainly won't argue with his judgement

[cfcuk]

Full backs, that's that ticked off. Duffie with a proper pre-season should be terrific. Not going to get much better than those two at this level. 

Agree duffie and Stewart looked solid since turn of year on that form not much better in the league [emoji106]

[cfcuk]

Delighted to see Kevin nicoll sign missed his presence the games against cowdenbeath and Berwick good guy to have as captain

[Sao Paulo]

We need more quality and experience inside of Duffie and Stewart. While McNiff's more than earned his new deal, and Lang seems like he'd take to the centre comfortably, I'd be a bit worried if those two were our first-picked pair in the middle. All the top sides this season had at least one dependable and experienced centre-half. We'd do well to follow suit next season.

There's a place for Nicoll, but we'd need to play a line of five somewhere for him to be a starter each week, and that's a concession we'd be making from the off. We'll want to be able to play two forwards without worrying that our midfield will be strolled through. Berwick, Annan and Cowdenbeath away. Those could be Kevin Nicoll games.

Indifferent about Currie. Need good competition alongside him.

Thinking about strategy, here. Remember Lennon's Cowdenbeath, Moore's Stirling, and - from left field - Neil Watt's Stranraer? Three sides that cruised up the divisions, ending-up in the old first. Irrespective of their fate in the first, all competed very well there, and miles better than the likes of Brechin this season in the championship.

There were a few things that went into how impressively they ascended the leagues, but none of those sides were small or young sides. They'd lots of big players through the middle (Henderson, Jenkins, Wardlaw, Grehan). Most had some real pace too (David Graham). Good dead-balls (Chris Aitken). They made-up for the fitness advantage by forcing their game on the better teams; so that Clyde could never win a game of heady-tennis with Stranraer. And Stirling could nick a game by winning a single dead-ball outside the box.

If we're serious about getting back into the big time as a part-time outfit, we'd do well to imitate those sides' approach. Sooner we start on the path, the better. And I think it's already clear that's the idea. Lang and Cogill as full-backs this season might've been counterproductive, but it must've been justified in Lennon's mind. If your four defenders can always put it right back into midfield with a header, that's a massive bonus. Walter Smith's Rangers with Papac and Whittaker as full-backs basically had the same idea about them: no headers lost. Straight back at you.

Be interesting to see if we can get some experienced but still mobile players for the midfield, and some brawn up front.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Sao Paulo

[clydenil]

What a difference from the last few years, where we struggled to get 11 on the books before the start of the season. Looking good, just hope the club get the support and season ticket sales to go with this.