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As always I understand about 34% of what he's written but it's impossible not to be encouraged, motivated, and convinced that we're firmly heading upwards. 

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As usual, that piece of writing could have hit on all of his points in about a quarter of the word count, but he's some boy is our Norrie. All he needs to do now is release funds for us to sign a fistful of ballers this month :wub:

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6 minutes ago, David W said:

As always I understand about 34% of what he's written but it's impossible not to be encouraged, motivated, and convinced that we're firmly heading upwards. 

Now you know how we feel. Lol

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As always I understand about 34% of what he's written but it's impossible not to be encouraged, motivated, and convinced that we're firmly heading upwards. 
Even with my Nat 3 English qualification, I can only understand 18%.

It does worry me that these statements and proposals being so verbose may hide some important detail or controversy. (perhaps deliberately?)



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14 minutes ago, haufdaft said:

Even with my Nat 3 English qualification, I can only understand 18%.

It does worry me that these statements and proposals being so verbose may hide some important detail or controversy. (perhaps deliberately?)


 

You old cynic you!!

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48 minutes ago, haufdaft said:

Even with my Nat 3 English qualification, I can only understand 18%.

It does worry me that these statements and proposals being so verbose may hide some important detail or controversy. (perhaps deliberately?)


 

Who knows, indeed if he is concocting a devious plan, oor Norrie is definitely at pains to make sure it's well hidden. Maybe you'll find a clue in the capital letters? 

 

In the real world, i'd take a lot of the content as being things he may have noticed that have just perhaps not been explored or flirted with previously, not to the degree of the AGM with throwing buzzwords around to stir debate but seeing genuine potential surrounding the club's location and how this manifests with our current position.

 

Things haven't just improved both on and off the pitch by coincidence, a lot of work from all at the club has gone in to turning us around in the table, matchday experience enjoyment and even being able to wear items socially and leisurely from an excellent merchandise range, to name just three.

 

In under a year, sorting these matters out successfully, i'd say Norrie's more than earned the right to cast his eye further and look at what else we could be missing out on from infrastructure, local engagement and promotional activities prespectives which may have been considered beyond us previously or worse still, not considered as matters of interest for the club at all. 

 

We're in very good hands, in my opinion. 

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Who knows, indeed if he is concocting a devious plan, oor Norrie is definitely at pains to make sure it's well hidden. Maybe you'll find a clue in the capital letters? 
 
In the real world, i'd take a lot of the content as being things he may have noticed that have just perhaps not been explored or flirted with previously, not to the degree of the AGM with throwing buzzwords around to stir debate but seeing genuine potential surrounding the club's location and how this manifests with our current position.
 
Things haven't just improved both on and off the pitch by coincidence, a lot of work from all at the club has gone in to turning us around in the table, matchday experience enjoyment and even being able to wear items socially and leisurely from an excellent merchandise range, to name just three.
 
In under a year, sorting these matters out successfully, i'd say Norrie's more than earned the right to cast his eye further and look at what else we could be missing out on from infrastructure, local engagement and promotional activities prespectives which may have been considered beyond us previously or worse still, not considered as matters of interest for the club at all. 
 
We're in very good hands, in my opinion. 
All that may be true but at a loss of £60000 last year if I recall correctly. Hopefully the costs of these investments bear fruit next year and from now on.

I just wish Norrie would call a spade a spade without all the flowery nonsense.

I worry that although you can't bullshit a Bullshitter, I who don't bullshit may be easily bullshitted.

Or is that just bullshit?

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12 minutes ago, haufdaft said:

All that may be true but at a loss of £60000 last year if I recall correctly. Hopefully the costs of these investments bear fruit next year and from now on.

I just wish Norrie would call a spade a spade without all the flowery nonsense.

I worry that although you can't bullshit a Bullshitter, I who don't bullshit may be easily bullshitted.

Or is that just bullshit?

I wouldn't worry HD, not a lot escapes your disapproving gaze when you get in the groove. And that's a good thing. 

 

Other than giving an opinion at the end of my post, which is entirely subjective, nothing 'may' be true about the three fields i outlined as improved (i can name some more if you like). They absolutely are. 

 

It's interesting you take up the deficit in what effectively is Year One for Norrie, with an easily detected undertone of disapproval. Given that several outlets exist for increasing revenue, which didn't serve anything previously like the level they do now, if at all, from open lounge facilities to mutually-beneficial HT draws, for starters. I'm sure projections will have been made on how these will aid in servicing this current shortfall, but again, that's subjective. I'm sure some will not be sure.

 

What's certainly significant here is that none of this was even on the radar as potential fundraising alternatives during the last considerable loss, which resulted in the Generations top that was worn  by (mostly) a bunch of complete fucking chancers driving us out of the League. What a self-fulfilling prophecy that was. Do you think, if more fans backed that initiative, we might have covered that loss (i was led to believe 49% of it was cleared by sales), and then won the league? 

 

We never had it so good, back then!

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Why use 5 words when 500 will do? 

Behind Norrie's overly flowery prose I read a concern about cash flow while more money is being pumped into non-essential endeavors. Is our "best lounge in Scotland" raising more money than our old match day hospitality offering? 

Why are we settling for being tenants in a stadium we could be evicted from at any point? For years our objective was to get a stable home of our own and we seem to have abandoned those plans. Where is our long term future? 

Don't forget haufdaft that along with that £60,000 loss is a massive bank loan. 

How much money are we going to piss away so that Norrie can preen and strut about telling us how great he is? Our on pitch performance is not in any way groundbreaking, and everything else just feels very cosmetic. 

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I share many of your concerns.

We hear about initiatives, investments and objectives but rarely do we hear of the results of these investments or the objectives other than in vague terms. It will probably take at least a year to find out. Eg. Has the Arria lounge increased profits that can be invested in the team. How are the intermediate figures? Surely if it was a great financial success he would be shouting it from the rooftops. In his statement he chooses to focus on the quality of the service. No mention of return

There's a lot of words in his statement but not many outcomes mentioned.

Norrie stated at the AGM that all this is geared to Clyde maximising our potential as a football club.

Do we really play the "best football in the lower divisions"? I'm sorry Norrie but that is hyperbolic "bullshit"

Do we really need a full time manager? Would the cost/benefit be worth it?

The same goes for full time football/operational /marketing] staff. Will the benefits outweigh the costs?

Norrie stated that issues should be thrown open to discussion like club crest, changing the club structure to a PLC etc but I feel these conversations should be led by the board members. Don't just throw out sweeping general proposals and then sit back.

Finally, I thought it was interesting that the "areas of priority" in his statement don't even mention promotion. Was that not a priority at the start of the season?

I hope my worries are without foundation. Norrie does seem to have the clubs interests at heart but he needs to keep his statements and comments grounded and simple.

Perhaps I'm just a Clyde fan, emotionally abused by previous incumbents, scared to trust anyone again.

We'll find out over the next few years.

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1 hour ago, haufdaft said:

I share many of your concerns.

We hear about initiatives, investments and objectives but rarely do we hear of the results of these investments or the objectives other than in vague terms. It will probably take at least a year to find out. Eg. Has the Arria lounge increased profits that can be invested in the team. How are the intermediate figures? Surely if it was a great financial success he would be shouting it from the rooftops. In his statement he chooses to focus on the quality of the service. No mention of return

There's a lot of words in his statement but not many outcomes mentioned.

Norrie stated at the AGM that all this is geared to Clyde maximising our potential as a football club.

Do we really play the "best football in the lower divisions"? I'm sorry Norrie but that is hyperbolic "bullshit"

Do we really need a full time manager? Would the cost/benefit be worth it?

The same goes for full time football/operational /marketing] staff. Will the benefits outweigh the costs?

Norrie stated that issues should be thrown open to discussion like club crest, changing the club structure to a PLC etc but I feel these conversations should be led by the board members. Don't just throw out sweeping general proposals and then sit back.

Finally, I thought it was interesting that the "areas of priority" in his statement don't even mention promotion. Was that not a priority at the start of the season?

I hope my worries are without foundation. Norrie does seem to have the clubs interests at heart but he needs to keep his statements and comments grounded and simple.

Perhaps I'm just a Clyde fan, emotionally abused by previous incumbents, scared to trust anyone again.

We'll find out over the next few years.
 

Can i ask, how quickly results are to be expected, let alone demanded? The function suite is less than a year old. Yes, it is being promoted as an avenue of assisting club finance, but on gates of 600, and projecting the likely percentage of this who'd use such a facility regularly, the answer would probably right now, be a no - i think ee can safely say it probably isn't funding Danny Lennon's warchest.

 

And if it was a roaring success even already, which businessman would be "shouting about it from the rooftops"? Do you think he's run this, to be surprised by the results? Or is it really the case, after all, that the club just cannot succeed at anything while at Broadwood, and that is simply that? Old news, that one Haufdaft. 

 

The majority of other outlined prospective ventures are , given our position, clearly aspirational. Full time managers, staff and players costs money, of course. Promotion clearly is an implied ingredient in providing the necessary grounds for the club to evolve in this manner. 

 

Playing the battered wife, "emotionally abused by previous incumbents", is really quite sad HD. None of these points were ever raised towards any "previous incumbents", whether you trusted them or not. The club was one goal from the Lowland due to that administration. You have evidence every Saturday of a performing team, an increase in marketing and social initiatives, a clear business development plan albeit requiring small steps due in no little part to the fact that 21st century football itself is a hard sell, and the man outlining it is held in mistrust and his intellect shot to smithereens. You'd never have pulled this trick six years ago over East fucking Kilbride, i can see that clearly. 

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19 minutes ago, Clyde01 said:

 


Hope you didn’t miss your Mensa meeting to make that comment.

 

Why say in 500 words what you can say in two.

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OB, I'm surprised that you seem to be a staunch believer based on not much hard evidence.

 

You say, "the function suite is less than a year old. Yes, it is being promoted as an avenue of assisting club finance, but on gates of 600, and projecting the likely percentage of this who'd use such a facility regularly, the answer would probably right now, be a no" but you don't ask if it's worth the gamble to our finances. Is that not a reasonable question?

 

I also think that if it was a roaring success, Norrie would be shouting it from the rooftops. I would if I was him.

 

You say that the areas of priority are clearly aspirational but that promotion is only implied ingredient. It's not implied at all. Why is it not a stated priority?

 

I think I may be coming across as antagonistic towards the board. I'm not. I only have a belief that we should look for hard evidence of the improvements we're told are happening. As I said in a previous post, it's probably too soon to judge. That's why I wish Norrie would tone it down and keep it simple. He may be setting himself up for a fall.

 

Certainly there seems to be a greater confidence about the fans and there is a feeling that the club as a whole are more dynamic. I hope this confidence is not built on sand.

 

 

I hope everything Norrie and the board do is a great success. The club's future may depend on it.

 

 

 

 

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Out of interest, I’ve never heard about the massive bank loan before. When was this taken out and any idea how much it was? 

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