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It'll be a stunning failure if they don't get past Tunisia & Panama, at least. Poland at worst after that - tricky, but eminently winnable, you'd think. Brazil or Germany next; that's all folks.

Mind the days when there was always the faint worry that they might actually win something?

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9 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

It'll be a stunning failure if they don't get past Tunisia & Panama, at least. Poland at worst after that - tricky, but eminently winnable, you'd think. Brazil or Germany next; that's all folks.

Agreed.  The good thing about it is that once they scrape passed Poland that the media/fans will all start believing that it's their year.

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The tradition with England is that they seem to breeze through qualification groups - mainly as they are in with dross anyway - but as soon as they meet a half decent team, they lose. This has been the case for decades and despite their press normally saying " this will be our year", all other football fans can see that they have no chance of doing well in any knock-out tournament as their players are always found wanting in the skill department. It is exacerbated even more lately because all their top teams are composed mainly of players ineligible to play for England, so some of their squad are reserves or occasional players.

Having said all that, there is a country to the north of them who seem to think that players who are not good enough even to be considered for a proven failure of an international team, will somehow manage to represent another country and make them good enough to succeed. Laughable if it wasn't true.

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5 hours ago, Dullard Bluteau said:

Having said all that, there is a country to the north of them who seem to think that players who are not good enough even to be considered for a proven failure of an international team, will somehow manage to represent another country and make them good enough to succeed. Laughable if it wasn't true.

Eh?

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Usual pish, muddle through the groups, then papped out at the first sign of any half decent team. Media to pump them up, then demand Southgate is sacked when it goes tits up

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10 hours ago, berwick-the-unbeatable said:

I think we'll get further than any other home nation

The absolute definition of cold comfort.

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On 4/20/2018 at 14:49, Dullard Bluteau said:

Having said all that, there is a country to the north of them who seem to think that players who are not good enough even to be considered for a proven failure of an international team, will somehow manage to represent another country and make them good enough to succeed. Laughable if it wasn't true.

I for one am shocked.  Shocked.

10 hours ago, heedthebaa said:

Usual pish, muddle through the groups, then papped out at the first sign of any half decent team. Media to pump them up, then demand Southgate is sacked when it goes tits up

Basically this.  They'll get through the group, then likely out in the first knockout round.  Maybe the quarters if they manage to play above themselves.  From then they absolutely could go further with a hefty dose of luck, just like any side can.  Were Costa Rica as good as their performances showed in 2014?  Absolutely not, but still made it.  Still though, it's going to take a better side having an off day and them playing far better than they usually do.  So likely first knockout round for them.

The only constant will be the wee nation attitude from most up here, laughing it up.  Always fail to see the hilarity in watching a nation perform to par when we can't even reach that low level.  

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Fans, probably not, outside of a core of absolute f**k-nuts.  Media, well I suppose that would depend whether you mean actually thinking they can do it, or the company line.  The story will be to build them up so they can either ride the wave with an unlikely win, or, more likely, beat them down.  

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1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

I don't think England fans and media really expect them to do anything internationally anymore, do they? 

Apart from the odd fucknugget no, the media however are devious and will shit stir at every opportunity they can, by bumping the team up and rubbishing them when the inevitable crash and burn happens 

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