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8 hours ago, Poet of the Macabre said:

Christ, they've won the league with games to spare and still spitting with rage :lol:

 

7 hours ago, Grant228 said:

Reilly was an overwhelming success, until January. 

Since then he's scored as many league goals as Lee Ashcroft. 

Best of luck to St Mirren in the Premier but I still think they'll need a better striker, might that be Mullen? He's looked better against us than Reilly but going by the ratings he's maybe not succeeding in other games. It's always interesting to see how promoted championship squads get on and how much they need to change. 

You won the league having escaped relegation on the final day of last season, and that's one of your most satisfying stories? Fucking hell. 

 

 

Let it go guys, the jealousy is eating you up. Just grow a pair and accept it, by all accounts the guys had a terrific season and contributed well for the champions.

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 He's not even in the top 3 at Dunfermline.
I never said that he was a poor player, in fact I said quite the opposite.
How good a signing is is down to the manager as well as the player.
Ryan is a decent player, but we don't really need him and thus, he's had limited chances this season, he's clearly not good enough to push McManus or Clark out of the team and wasn't good enough to push Smith out of it at the start of the season either. This means he has not been a worthwhile signing, so far. He might start every game next season and bang in 40 goals, however, so far, he has been an ineffectual at best signing.
On yet another occasion you have had to have the very basics of football explained very slowly and clearly to you.

He's now worse than a striker who can't get off the bench at alloa?
Slowly and clearly.

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As per other posts by me, I've not been to that many games this season so I defer to posters who've seen more of the team than me, but here are my thoughts.

Mark Ridgers – Started very poorly but has improved significantly as the season has gone on.  It's been a real transformation tbh.  As well as being more reliable and making superb individual saves (see the St Mirren game for examples of the latter) he has one of the longest kicks in the division, hopefully we build a dogs of war, hatchet man long ball team around him.  7/10

Collin Seedorf – I think he's absolute garbage.  He can't do anything particularly well, he looks like a decent player but doesn't contribute and is capable of turning in absolute stinkers.  Was destroyed in the Dunfermline game and was missing for months afterwards.  2/10

Matty Elsdon – Absolutely terrible player, signed I assume to fill the team, which is the case with quite a few of our signings this season.  1/10

Riccardo Calder – He's improved from early season showings and is a threat going forward while not always being solid defensively.  I quite like him and think he could grow into the team.  6/10

Coll Donaldson – Signed to a fanfare of shrugs and 'mehs' he's been our player of the season.  Good in the air, quick, good with the ball at his feet, solid, disciplined.  He's been a revelation and the best thing we've done is sign him on a longer deal.  9/10

Joe Chalmers – For some reason we played him as a full-back and wide midfielder early on and he was abysmal but since moving inside he's found a role.  He's not an exciting player, he's a grinder who doesn't do anything superbly but when he plays well he doesn't make mistakes and allows better midfielders (Vigurs and Polworth) room to do their thing.  6/10

Alex Cooper – Again, signed because he was available and filled a jersey.  Not good enough for this level.  3/10

Zak Elbouzedi – I don't think he's played a first team game so na/10.

Charlie Trafford – Interesting signing, an international who has played in the top leagues of some European countries, he's a physical presence and is obviously a capable player.  He's maybe suffered from not being able to get a run of starts but I think he could improve next season.  He did have a couple of poor games (Dundee in the cup being one) so 5/10.

John Baird – He's not a great finisher and he missed quite a few improtant chances but he was an improtant player for us in our run of form that pulled us out of the horrorshow start to the season we had.  The work he and Bell did in pressing from the front and making runs into channels to free up space was vital and underappreciated.  Strange stuff to see him freed, I understand he fell out with the management team.  5/10

Felicitano Zschusschen – I thought signing a massive targetman might be good.  He was not good.  He was bad.  1/10

George Oakley – If you need someone to score goals against Brechin, Oakely's your man.  He's done well to carve out a place in the starting XI but he's still pretty raw.  He has ability though, I'm not sure how he far he can develop.  5/10

Connor Bell – He was probably our most dangerous forward early in the season, a nippy pressing forward who could finish and did a good job in pressing from the front alongside Baird.  However, he's really slipped back since the turn of the year and is much further down the pecking order.   He's still young (21) and I think he's got potential, similar to Oakely.  5/10

Nathan Austin – Looked like a complete farce of a signing, subbed off after a couple of minutes of his debut and with a long history of injury we looked like we'd been mugged off.  Since he's back to fitness though he's looked better and now has four goals in three games.  Difficult to give him a rating but certainly one who is on the up - we've really lacked decent forwards this season.  5/10.

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 2 out of those 14 signings are good for a starting place next season (Ridgers and Donaldson). Can't really remember Robbo making many decent signings in his last stint either, apart from Bingham. 

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1 minute ago, CaleyStan said:

 2 out of those 14 signings are good for a starting place next season (Ridgers and Donaldson). Can't really remember Robbo making many decent signings in his last stint either, apart from Bingham. 

I get what you are saying but I don't think we are going to be signing many new players.  We are looking for the likes of Oakley, Austin, Calder to build on the positives they have shown this season.  :unsure: 

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11 hours ago, mishtergrolsch said:

Dundee United minus Bilel Mohsni 4/10

Bilel Mohsni - 11/10

4/10 is generous.  Lyng on his own is -20.  Mason is -30.

Can't see many Arabs having any desire to participate in this thread.  :(

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Harris                           w**k

Loy                                  w**k

McGhee                       Good Guy

Welsh                            w**k

Tumilty                         w**k

Nelson                         Good Guy

Jakubiak                      Good Guy

Blair                                w**k

Longridge                    w**k

Robson                        Good Guy

Ballatoni                     Good Guy

Hazard                         w**k

 

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48 minutes ago, ICTChris said:


John Baird – He's not a great finisher and he missed quite a few improtant chances but he was an improtant player for us in our run of form that pulled us out of the horrorshow start to the season we had.  The work he and Bell did in pressing from the front and making runs into channels to free up space was vital and underappreciated.  Strange stuff to see him freed

I understand he fell out with the management team.  5/10

 

Well I for one am shocked :o

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Coll Donaldson – 9/10 – Was going to hurl myself off Arthur's Seat when I heard we signed Donaldson but happy to eat my words on the guy. Came into a pretty ropey defence and fitted in well with some rotten performances to begin with (Dumbarton away for example) but over time he's proven to be a solid replacement for Meekings. Whilst not the fastest he at least has some pace to help mop up behind Warren and he has become much better carrying the ball out of defence rather than whacking it out of play for a throw in. Last I checked when we play with Donaldson in the team the number of goals we concede halves and our win percentage trebles. Our best signing.

Mark Ridgers – 7.5/10 – As Tarmo says a cheap signing to get an above average keeper between the sticks as we looked to cut costs by punting Fon Williams and his high salary from the club. Ridgers started poorly and was eventually replaced by Fon Williams for a period before he regained his place. After this Ridgers seemed to become much more dependable and has pulled off some cracking saves especially in recent weeks. Kicking is still a bit suspect at times however for the most part he's been good enough.

George Oakley – 7/10 – I'm not his biggest fan as his first touch is more often than not poor and his second is usually a tackle or him falling over after wrestling his opponent but he does seem to be building a relatively decent partnership with Austin up front now which may leave Bell out in the cold. Has shown that he can finish chances well and can also improvise quickly to take advantage of limited opportunities for a strike (goal in the Cup v Dundee is a good example) but at the same time he can also squander easy opportunities and gives away far too many fouls when trying to win the ball. A useful foil for Robertsons tedious bad long ball style.

Connor Bell – 7/10 – Bell seems to have had a hard time of it lately. As mentioned below he formed a good partnership with Baird earlier in the season but for whatever reason he struggled to recreate that with Oakley. Often shunted around across the front line he has sometimes had to make do with being played wide right where I don't think he is particularly effective. I genuinely feel he has the potential to be a similar player to Billy Mckay for us hanging on the shoulder of the last defender but we prefer a nice bit of hoofball up to a tall forward under Robbo so Bell will likely have to settle for a place on the bench for a while yet despite his early season good form.

Nathan Austin – 6.5/10 – After the hat trick at the weekend Austin now has more goals for us than he's had injuries which is nice. As Tarmo says he has looked good when he has featured but all too often it ends with him on the floor in pain needing stretchered off. Hopefully he can knock these injuries on the head and go on to be an important player for us next season.

Riccardo Calder – 6/10 – Reasonable deputy for Tremarco when he was injured earlier in the season and when Raven wasn't deputising at left back. Defensively pretty suspect but, disagreeing with Tarmo here, I thought his crossing was reasonable when he got forward. Decent bit of pace about him as well and he can also fill in further forward. Had a good game v Dundee in the Cup a few months ago. Better than Seedorf but not a standout performer.

Charlie Trafford – 6/10 – Swings between composed Owain Tudor Jones style midfielder and lackadaisical oaf who clatters into opposition players and struggles to pass the ball more than a few yards. Not a terrible signing but very inconsistent. Another signing from some football agency that Robertson has been prone to using this season with decidedly poor results.

Joe Chalmers – 6/10 – Motherwell fans told us to "enjoy the ride" when we signed Smokin' Joe and to begin with they were right. Actually, even now they are right. When Chalmers pulled out of a challenge against Stirling Albion that was 70:30 in his favour it looked like we had signed an laborious shitebag. Even now he struggles to impose himself on games but Robertson has found more success using him on the left side of midfield tucking in to cover for Polworth and/or Vigurs when they get forward. He's weighed in with a few goals now as well for us but he's still been pretty poor overall I would say.

John Baird – 5/10 – Falkirk fans said he will work hard but not score. In a stunning turn of events Baird, erm, worked hard but didn't score goals. Paired with Bell up front the two of them formed a solid partnership during our reasonable run of form which included a solid bodying of Dundee United at Tannadice earlier in the season. Unfortunately, his tendency to miss chances saw Baird become a victim for the ICT boo boys and his time at ICT came to an end when he was alleged to have exchanged heated words with Robertson prior to the Challenge Cup semi final against Crusaders after learning he wasn't in the starting line up. He was sent off to Morton on an "emergency loan" deal until the end of the season. Out of contract and will almost certainly leave the club.

Collin Seedorf – 5/10 – Horror show against the Pars followed up by a sending off against Morton the following week saw him out of the side until December (partly due to injury). Since then he's appeared infrequently and looked okay playing as a right back or as a central midfielder. Unfortunately okay is normally as good as it gets as he tends to give away penalties and get caught out of position as the game passes him by.

Zak Elbouzedi – 1.5/10 – Probably a harsh mark as I've barely seen the guy but when he came on against Dunfermline the other week he looked completely lost. At one point he stood completely still watching the ball getting passed around him whilst other players charged all over the place trying to win it back. Prior to this he was sent to Elgin City on loan where his only contribution of note was coming on when Elgin were 1 - 0 down against Peterhead who then ran out 7 - 0 winners. Our fans seem to have a habitat of super wanking over players because they look good against Clach and Rothes in pre season friendlies and then, shockingly, they turn out to be not that good at all. Elbouzedi looks like he will be another one of those players.

Alex Cooper – 1.5/10 – A dreadful signing. Real lack of speed for someone who was played on the wing and far too slight to be played in the middle. Did manage to bag a goal whilst he was with us but it was against Brechin so that doesn't really count. Now off playing in the USA I believe.

Matty Elsdon – 1/10 – Another player who had a horror show at EEP earlier in the season. A lumbering carthorse of a defender with very little redeeming qualities. Whilst still only young at 20 when you think how good Meekings was for us at that age it doesn't exactly make you think that Elsdon is going to do much in football. The ICT rumour mill suggested he ended up in a fight with Vigurs after the game against the Pars. Sent back to Boro in January.

Felicitano Zschusschen – 0/10 – Another one of these signings who 1) looked "useful" against Clach and 2) was signed from a football agency. "Susan" turned out to be one of the worst players I have ever seen in the 20 + years I've been watching ICT and includes Dani Lopez. Disappeared from the side almost before the season had begun with his last outing being the mauling at EEP. Apparently injured for the rest of his time here but I suspect Robertson knew he had been sold a dud and he was secretly bundled up and hurled off the Kessock Bridge with bricks tied to his feet.

TL;DR? 

Donaldson - Very good.
Zschusschen, Cooper, Elsdon and Elbouzedi - Rotten.
Everyone else - Meh to good.

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We've done pretty well in the signings this season. Smith has been excellent and has scored and created. He would probably be pushing for championship player of the season if it wasn't for Dobbie and Morgan, and i think he'll step up next season. 9/10

Samson is the best keeper in the league and Davis is the best defender, and Liam Smith is in the reckoning for best fullback as well. Together they've been part of one of the best defensive lines in the championship with 8 consecutive clean sheets at home. Brilliant stuff. 8/10

Reilly scored the goals that got us moving early in the season. He's led the line well, linked brilliantly with Morgan, Smith and Magennis/Flynn and even when the goals dried up a little towards the end of the season, he still contributed. He's much stronger than he looks as well and you could see defenders hated playing against him. 8/10

Flynn, Mullen, McShane and Stelios have all been in and out of the team, but have all contributed to a great season. Flynn and Mullen look best placed to kick on for next season, but they all deserve their medals 7/10.

The rest didn't get much of a chance and were mostly brought in as squad players.

 

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1 hour ago, RiG said:

John Baird – 5/10 – Falkirk fans said he will work hard but not score. In a stunning turn of events Baird, erm, worked hard but didn't score goals. Paired with Bell up front the two of them formed a solid partnership during our reasonable run of form which included a solid bodying of Dundee United at Tannadice earlier in the season. Unfortunately, his tendency to miss chances saw Baird become a victim for the ICT boo boys and his time at ICT came to an end when he was alleged to have exchanged heated words with Robertson prior to the Challenge Cup semi final against Crusaders after learning he wasn't in the starting line up. He was sent off to Morton on an "emergency loan" deal until the end of the season. Out of contract and will almost certainly leave the club.

 

Rumours around Falkirk when he left was that he was on a contract which was heavily bonus related with goals and appearances, so if he is making a case for not playing at a stage of his career may sound that the rumours may have a chance of being a fact. 

 

On FFC players

Mitchell - 7

Jakubiak - 7

Nelson - 7

Ballatoni - 7

Robson - 6.5

McGhee - 6.5

The rest of the signings rate from 5,4,3,2 and not really worth a mention

 

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54 minutes ago, GAD said:

We've done pretty well in the signings this season. Smith has been excellent and has scored and created. He would probably be pushing for championship player of the season if it wasn't for Dobbie and Morgan, and i think he'll step up next season. 9/10

Samson is the best keeper in the league and Davis is the best defender, and Liam Smith is in the reckoning for best fullback as well. Together they've been part of one of the best defensive lines in the championship with 8 consecutive clean sheets at home. Brilliant stuff. 8/10

Reilly scored the goals that got us moving early in the season. He's led the line well, linked brilliantly with Morgan, Smith and Magennis/Flynn and even when the goals dried up a little towards the end of the season, he still contributed. He's much stronger than he looks as well and you could see defenders hated playing against him. 8/10

Flynn, Mullen, McShane and Stelios have all been in and out of the team, but have all contributed to a great season. Flynn and Mullen look best placed to kick on for next season, but they all deserve their medals 7/10.

The rest didn't get much of a chance and were mostly brought in as squad players.

 

Oft, this league has fairly regressed.

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8 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

Oft, this league has fairly regressed.

Have to say from what I've seen if Samson he has been very good, as for the stats, they speak for themselves 

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19 hours ago, palmy_cammy said:

Alan Martin - It's fair to say he hasn't lived up to the hype.  He arrived looking rather out of shape and unfit and then proceeded to pick up an injury that he tried to play through.  The results weren't good.  Shown enough in glimpses that he could do a job but needs to get fit for next season 5/10

Andy Stirling - Another one who looked rather rotund upon his arrival.  He has never really looked like he has wanted to be at Queens and will probably get his wish after a series of unspectacular performances. 3/10

Callum Fordyce - He has done very well in the main putting in strong performances at CB and RB.  We were certainly weaker without him during his absence through injury. 7/10

Joe Thomson - Took a while to get going after not playing much in the first half of the season.  He is now back to his best and if it wasn't for a certain Mr Dobbie would easily be the best player in the team 8/10

Shaun Rooney - You can't help but feel there is a player in there somewhere as he has all the physical attributes.  His reading of the game is appalling though, and despite the excitement his marauding runs cause, you never feel like he knows what he is going to do at the end of them. 4/10

Dom Thomas - Another player returning for a second spell on loan and largely hitting the same heights as before. 7/10

Josh Todd - Apparently was a standout in our recent victory at Tannadice, a result that has to go down as one of our best of the season.  He's been completely anonymous in the games I have seen though. 3/10

Jason Kerr - Formed an excellent partnership with Fordyce and chipped in with a number of goals as well.  I'd be keen for him to return next season as it sounds like he's not quite ready for the step up to the Premiership 7/10

Kyle Cameron - We will be in the market for at least one CB in the summer.  Cameron won't be one of them 4/10

Curtis Lyle - Signed as backup and unlikely to play N/A

Chris Kane - Started slowly but by the end was striking up an excellent partnership with Dobbie.  Really disappointing to see him recalled by St Johnstone where he has already established himself 8/10

Myles Beerman - Hasn't featured much but hasn't really made a case to when he has.  Very lightweight. 1/10

James McFadden - Many feared his legs had gone.  They were right. 3/10

Nikolay Todorov - Scored one crucial goal from the bench but has looked pretty meh aside from that.  I doubt we'll be in a rush to make his signing permanent. 6/10

Kerr has been outstanding at St Johnstone like he was for us. Very surprised Kane got a higher rating. Agree with most other ratings though although I think Todorov gets a higher mark than deserved. Also Cameron must rank as one of our worst players in recent times so a 4 seems generous too.

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1 hour ago, GAD said:

We've done pretty well in the signings this season. Smith has been excellent and has scored and created. He would probably be pushing for championship player of the season if it wasn't for Dobbie and Morgan, and i think he'll step up next season. 9/10

Samson is the best keeper in the league and Davis is the best defender, and Liam Smith is in the reckoning for best fullback as well. Together they've been part of one of the best defensive lines in the championship with 8 consecutive clean sheets at home. Brilliant stuff. 8/10

Reilly scored the goals that got us moving early in the season. He's led the line well, linked brilliantly with Morgan, Smith and Magennis/Flynn and even when the goals dried up a little towards the end of the season, he still contributed. He's much stronger than he looks as well and you could see defenders hated playing against him. 8/10

Flynn, Mullen, McShane and Stelios have all been in and out of the team, but have all contributed to a great season. Flynn and Mullen look best placed to kick on for next season, but they all deserve their medals 7/10.

The rest didn't get much of a chance and were mostly brought in as squad players.

 

Nope

Nope, Alexander

Nope, Halkett

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Robert Thomson - I've spent much of this season defending Thomson while other fans had already made their minds up, but at this point in the season you have to conclude that it just isn't going to work out. I was really impressed with him at Brechin & Dumbarton and was happy when we got him on a pre-contract, but it's not happened for him at all.

My defence of him was often based on the idea that we weren't using him correctly. Whether we played him on the left or at centre forward we were treating him as a target man because he's tall and our manager is Jim Duffy when that just isn't his game and we should be giving him the ball to his feet like a conventional winger, which from what I saw is how Dumbarton used him in his excellent second half of last season. However he's now at the point where he can't do anything right with the ball at his feet either and his performance against Dumbarton last week was genuinely laughable. Whether it's due to being devoid of confidence or just not cut out for full time football I don't know, but either way he should be out the door in the summer. Of course, he got a two year deal so there's little chance of that. 4/10

Bob McHugh - Another signing I was happy with. While I didn't see him as being good enough to start every week for a playoff challenging team, when you looked at our attacking options last season then a solid if unspectacular Championship centre forward was an obvious upgrade as cover on duds like Oyenuga or Shankland. He has made a positive contribution as an impact sub occasionally, but as a starter he just isn't good enough.

Maybe it's just how Morton play, but he's a penalty box centre forward and we need our centre forward to contribute outside the box. He's completely incapable of doing that, and clearly Duffy made him some kind of promise of first team football as he keeps returning him to the starting eleven to the detriment of the team. Bearing in mind that he doesn't offer anything else his goalscoring record is unacceptable. He's another player who should be punted in the summer but got a two year deal so will be going nowhere. 4/10

Darren Barr - It's maybe unfair to judge Barr as a player because he was primarily brought in as a youth coach who just happened to be registered as a player as a well to cover for emergencies, but he played four times and he was a disaster area in every appearance. Absolutely finished as a player at this level, and he even got roasted by Queen's Park in the League Cup so that doesn't say much for him at lower levels either. 0/10

Gary Harkins - A signing people were unhappy with due to his time with Ayr last season, and there was even more concern as it became clear at the start of the season that Duffy planned to use him as a deep lying midfielder. He's been our player of the season by a fucking mile. Sometimes his lack of mobility and defensive presence does contribute to the midfield being overrun, but that's the only negative. With the ball at his feet he's been outstanding and his vision and reading of the game is excellent. At 33 he's not going to be moving back to the top flight so I'm confident of keeping him, but if he does leave it's a worrying sign for next season. 9/10

Connor McManus - A player who never got a chance really. He was brought in as a holding midfielder but found himself playing at centre back alongside Barr in the League Cup. In his few appearances in midfield he looked competent without looking particularly good, then he was released in December with Duffy claiming we were 'over-saturated' in midfield, when Murdoch was the only other defensive midfielder at the club. Hard to escape the conclusion that Duffy meant that as code for 'I don't think he's good enough', particularly when we signed midfielders again later in the season. 4/10

Jack Iredale - Sent on loan to Queen's Park after two appearances, this seemed to be a bit of a bizarre signing. Why use some of the first team budget on a player who was only going to be sent on loan immediately anyway? Was Iredale going to be this season's Romario Sabajo, Caolan McAleer, Jordan Allan type signing which made no sense at the time only to be released in January anyway? He returned from his loan and was brought into the first team at left back, which surprised everyone since he was signed as a centre back. He was fantastic and his performances were integral to going on a run of six wins in seven games. After our form has collapsed, he's been one of the few still playing well. He's only 21 as well so hopefully we're going to see him develop further over the next few years, although we do need to acknowledge that he's only played 12 games so he maybe won't maintain this. 7/10

Ross Doohan - Goalkeeper signed on loan from Celtic for the season, returned in January without playing a minute. A waste of a loan signing. 0/10

Conor Brennan - Brought in as second choice goalkeeper after Doohan returned to Celtic. He's only played three games but he's been fine in all of them. 6/10

Luca Gasparotto - Returned on loan in January to provide more cover in defence. He's been fine, but he's been nowhere near as good as he was in his first spell at the club and if he's here next season it's going to be as cover. 6/10

Frank Ross - This is awkward to rate as his performances merit the signing being rated highly, but Duffy's use of him could arguably knock a few points off through no fault of the player. Frank Ross signed, came into the team then we immediately went on a run of six wins in seven with him starting every week. Obviously that's not entirely down to one player, but he was playing well for all of them. Then Duffy dropped him and we've only won two in ten. That's not a coincidence. It is worth pointing out that when Ross has came back into the starting eleven in games such as Livingston away he didn't play as well as when he initially arrived, but the loss of the natural width he offers has completely fucked the balance of the team.

Our record since Ross signed is P17 W8 D4 L5. With him in the starting eleven it's P11 W7 D3 L1, without him starting it's P6 W1 D1 L4. The one defeat with him was against Celtic, the one win without him was against Brechin. Frank Ross deserves a rating of 9/10, Jim Duffy's use of Frank Ross deserves a rating of 0/10.

John Baird - You could look at the stats alone and say 3 goals in 7 games (6 starts) in the league is a good return for any centre forward; for comparison, McHugh has 4 in 31 (18 starts). Much like with McHugh at the start of the season, I looked at Baird in comparison to last season and thought he isn't great, but at least he's not Lawrence Shankland. In reality, John Baird is the anti-Frank Ross.

I've mentioned that run of six wins from seven followed by two wins from ten often, because those runs are what our season hinged on. The good run ended with the last game before Baird signed, the bad one started on John Baird's debut. This is not a coincidence. He has taken his goals well, but two of them were against Brechin. He is the epitome of a Jim Duffy player - he runs around a lot and tries hard, but has f**k all about him. His contribution outside the box is no better than McHugh. He's nowhere near good enough, but as he's exactly the type of player Duffy loves he starts most games and shoehorning him in has seen the return of the disastrous 4-3-3, at the expense of Frank Ross. If Duffy remains in charge for next season it is a cast iron certainty that we're going to sign this diddy, probably on yet another two year deal. Escaping the horror of watching him in a Morton top again is one of the biggest arguments in favour of sacking Duffy. 3/10

Gary Fraser - He clearly isn't match fit and has only had two starts so it's hard to judge him. On his first start against Brechin he was misplacing passes throughout and looked seriously off the pace, but he was alright against Dumbarton and took his goal well. Meh. N/A

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I shudder to think how bad Zschusschen must have looked as Seedorf produced one of the worst performances I've ever seen at EEP.

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19 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said:

I shudder to think how bad Zschusschen must have looked as Seedorf produced one of the worst performances I've ever seen at EEP.

Complete and utter shite. At least Lopez scored some goals for us. Zschusschen was our version of Ali Dia.

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2 hours ago, ATLIS said:

Nope

Nope, Alexander

Nope, Halkett

Yes

:lol:

:lol::lol:

 

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