Sectarianism

[bennett]

9 hours ago, Sharker said:

I see a Chapel was vandalised in Glasgow yesterday.  Must have been some upset 'people' who didn't get to march by it and sing about killing the people inside it.

Neds and vandalism....

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olice inquiries are continuing after St Simon's Church in Partick was ransacked during the day on Monday causing 'significant' damage. 

While some cited a recent rise in incidents targeting Catholics, police do not believe the incident was sectarian related"

 

[parsforlife]

Religion may well be a choice in 2019 but it was very much something you were born into 100 years ago.

 

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There’s an interesting line to be drawn her. Criticism of someone religion is perfectly valid, from light hearted jibes to absolute hatred.

 

If someone wants to stand outside chapels and scream about the wrongs of beliefs of catholicism whilst extreme and bizarre behaviour it’s ok IMO as freedom of speech.

 

When it stops being valid freedom of speech and starts becoming sectarianism IMO is when it isn’t aimed at individuals who are active, engaged practising adults and starts becoming ‘well your school has saint in it so your a catholic.’ Which is the case the majority of the time.

[SilverWolfe]

 
There’s an interesting line to be drawn her. Criticism of someone religion is perfectly valid, from light hearted jibes to absolute hatred.
 
If someone wants to stand outside chapels and scream about the wrongs of beliefs of catholicism whilst extreme and bizarre behaviour it’s ok IMO as freedom of speech.
 
When it stops being valid freedom of speech and starts becoming sectarianism IMO is when it isn’t aimed at individuals who are active, engaged practising adults and starts becoming ‘well your school has saint in it so your a catholic.’ Which is the case the majority of the time.

What nonsense. Absolute hatred of someone due to their religion is never valid.

[nsr]

And for balance:

"We are Celtic.

We destroy seating.

Everything we've ever won

was entirely down to cheating"

[parsforlife]

1 hour ago, Tartantony said:

3 hours ago, parsforlife said:

 
There’s an interesting line to be drawn her. Criticism of someone religion is perfectly valid, from light hearted jibes to absolute hatred.
 
If someone wants to stand outside chapels and scream about the wrongs of beliefs of catholicism whilst extreme and bizarre behaviour it’s ok IMO as freedom of speech.
 
When it stops being valid freedom of speech and starts becoming sectarianism IMO is when it isn’t aimed at individuals who are active, engaged practising adults and starts becoming ‘well your school has saint in it so your a catholic.’ Which is the case the majority of the time.

What nonsense. Absolute hatred of someone due to their religion is never valid.

Shite. There are numerous different religions that preach absolute shite that can give plenty of people valid reason to hate them.   You don't get a free pass just cos. 

[SilverWolfe]

Shite. There are numerous different religions that preach absolute shite that can give plenty of people valid reason to hate them.   You don't get a free pass just cos. 

Wow

So you're saying that because you disagree with the message of a religion that you have reason to hate someone of that religion? Am I understanding you correctly?

[Sharker]

13 hours ago, bennett said:

Neds and vandalism....

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olice inquiries are continuing after St Simon's Church in Partick was ransacked during the day on Monday causing 'significant' damage. 

While some cited a recent rise in incidents targeting Catholics, police do not believe the incident was sectarian related"

 

I think vandalising a place of worship is the very definition of a sectarian attack.

[LordHawHaw]

7 hours ago, parsforlife said:

 

If someone wants to stand outside chapels and scream about the wrongs of beliefs of catholicism whilst extreme and bizarre behaviour it’s ok IMO as freedom of speech.

 

Try it and see if the police agree with your opinion.

[LordHawHaw]

1 hour ago, Sharker said:

I think vandalising a place of worship is the very definition of a sectarian attack.

Amazing the police can make the judgement that it was non sectarian with little or no evidence especially in a city that has more anti Catholic demonstrations than any other city in the world. Although hardly surprising as the attack on the priest was categorised as a minor assault and nothing to do with the orange procession marching past the church at that time

[parsforlife]

Wow

 

So you're saying that because you disagree with the message of a religion that you have reason to hate someone of that religion? Am I understanding you correctly?

 

Your not far off tbf. If your willing to stand behind and support religious messages that for example could be homophobic then you are open to any backlash that comes your way.

 

Are you saying we can openly attack and despise religious messages and organisations but heaven forbid transfer those feeling onto the supporters of these organisations?

 

Try it and see if the police agree with your opinion.

 

Ok there's potentially breach of the peace consequences here, similarly if I turned up unannounced and stood outside a Tory party meeting shouting repeatedly at them.

[bennett]

4 hours ago, Sharker said:

I think vandalising a place of worship is the very definition of a sectarian attack.

Looks like the police are seeing it as just another case of mindless vandalism.

Quite sad that a lot of people are desperate for the motives to be sectarian.

 

[Sharker]

6 minutes ago, bennett said:

Looks like the police are seeing it as just another case of mindless vandalism.

Quite sad that a lot of people are desperate for the motives to be sectarian.

 

If you believe that a place of worship getting trashed isn't a sectarian attack , there's no hope for you.

 

[bennett]

Just now, Sharker said:

If you believe that a place of worship getting trashed isn't a sectarian attack , there's no hope for you.

 

 

Vandalism happens all the time, like most people I'd like to see the culprits caught and taught a lesson.

The police have stated that they don't believe it was sectarian.

 

[Sharker]

16 minutes ago, bennett said:

 

Vandalism happens all the time, like most people I'd like to see the culprits caught and taught a lesson.

The police have stated that they don't believe it was sectarian.

 

We'll agree to disagree, no doubt you think that Catholic priest that got spat on wasn't a sectarian attack either, after all people get spat on all the time.

[Bohemian]

Bennett defending his bigot mates shocker.

[bennett]

41 minutes ago, Sharker said:

We'll agree to disagree, no doubt you think that Catholic priest that got spat on wasn't a sectarian attack either, after all people get spat on all the time.

You're just being silly now.

 

[Flybhoy]

3 hours ago, bennett said:

 

Vandalism happens all the time, like most people I'd like to see the culprits caught and taught a lesson.

The police have stated that they don't believe it was sectarian.

 

The police are probably saying so because tensions are high on this matter since that priest was spat on last year and subsequent marches have been re-routed and cancelled, if the police stated the obvious that is related to this matter and is clearly sectarian in nature it would be throwing petrol on a fire of animosity that is slowly growing, anyone with a fraction of a brain cell can quickly deduce it is, so that clearly rules you out.

[bennett]

5 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

The police are probably saying so because tensions are high on this matter since that priest was spat on last year and subsequent marches have been re-routed and cancelled, if the police stated the obvious that is related to this matter and is clearly sectarian in nature it would be throwing petrol on a fire of animosity that is slowly growing, anyone with a fraction of a brain cell can quickly deduce it is, so that clearly rules you out.

Tensions are high because groups like 'call it out' are stirring them up.

Their game is so blatant.

 

 

[Flybhoy]

Just now, bennett said:

Tensions are high because groups like 'call it out' are stirring them up.

Their game is so blatant.

 

 

Yeah imagine calling out priests being spat on and people going in and out of mass being called ****** b*****ds, they need to have a long hard look at themselves highlighting and protesting against this. 

[bennett]

25 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

Yeah imagine calling out priests being spat on and people going in and out of mass being called ****** b*****ds, they need to have a long hard look at themselves highlighting and protesting against this. 

Someone acted like a kunt and got arrested for it, it was dealt with.

 

Call it outs agenda is to stir up tensions, as well getting a certain unemployed journo some of nil by mouths funding.....