Fifespud Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Owen Coyle You can f**k off too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fifespud said: You can f**k off too! Seriously? Robbie Neilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Seriously? Robbie Neilson? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 There are probably dozens of posts from me on here taking shots at Stuart McCall but if Dundee were to hand him a budget based on them finishing in the top 6 along with a board happy to eat 6 figure losses then I could see him doing a decent job at Dens. On the flip side of things my argument has generally been that a lot of his success at Motherwell came from him inheriting a good core of players like Randolph, Hutchinson, Hammell, Jennings, Lasley, Murphy, Humphrey and being able to add players like Law, Higdon and Ojamaa (who may have been pish with you lot but was cracking for us in his first spell). Looking at the Dundee squad at the moment I'm not sure it's as solid a group and I'm not entirely sure he's the sort of manager you'd want in for a relegation scrap. Either way he left Bradford just out the promotion play-off spots with a win % of 45.8%. Over 400 games in management and an average win % of 40.5% over his managerial career. McCann's on 43 games and 34.88% wins (take out the League Cup and Scottish Cup games and it drops below 30% - 10 wins in 34 games = 29.4%). If you're looking for a manager who's kind of the anti-McCann ie: experienced without being ancient, has a decent track record and has the added bonus of knowing the league then I don't think McCall would be that unrealistic/unreasonable a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 It'll be Hughes, Pressley or some other "philosophy" manager who can sell themselves. If Dundee had any bollocks to live up to this "sleeping giant" myth they peddle, they'd go balls out and get Jack Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I get why people want a change but the manager would still be faced with one of the worst squads I have seen at Dens in a long time. Apparently the new manager would give the team some kind of character, spirit and an effective way of playing for the run in? Where the f**k is that coming from with this bunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 It'll be Hughes, Pressley or some other "philosophy" manager who can sell themselves. If Dundee had any bollocks to live up to this "sleeping giant" myth they peddle, they'd go balls out and get Jack Ross Jack Ross wouldn't move now - an interim manager first then move in the summer for a new manager like Ross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: It'll be Hughes, Pressley or some other "philosophy" manager who can sell themselves. If Dundee had any bollocks to live up to this "sleeping giant" myth they peddle, they'd go balls out and get Jack Ross If we did bullet McCann, Ross would obviously be number 1 target. We wouldn't get him until the end of the season though. Return of the Jocky until then. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I get why people want a change but the manager would still be faced with one of the worst squads I have seen at Dens in a long time. Apparently the new manager would give the team some kind of character, spirit and an effective way of playing for the run in? Where the f**k is that coming from with this bunch? Tactics and organisation.Playing players in their correct position or if forced to play out of position a natural fit and not some powderpuff midget bairns.I think we do have enough to stay up - if we play a game that suits the skills of our players and not a game where we we think they are more skilled than they are.Midfield needs a serious shakeup - it's the reason why we close sloppy goals through not protecting our defence or supporting up front. Personally I'd rather have a defender in midfield playing the holding role than the pish we are getting right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juantwothree Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 From outside Robbie neilson, from within Mcpake and Boyle. He has to go, end of. I've supported him blindly all season but yesterday was the final nail in his coffin. If he doesn't go we will be in the play offs and I can't see us beating any of the teams from the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 25 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: It'll be Hughes, Pressley or some other "philosophy" manager who can sell themselves. If Dundee had any bollocks to live up to this "sleeping giant" myth they peddle, they'd go balls out and get Jack Ross Jack Ross wouldn't move now - an interim manager first then move in the summer for a new manager like Ross. I wouldn't be so sure. You promise him a fucking warchest in the Summer, and promises he'll be allowed whatever he wants regardless of division, and there's every chance he'd move. The rest of the season would let him evaluate the current squad with no genuine pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry man Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 If McCann leaves and I don’t think he will, I would like us to go for Gordon strachan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 If Dundee stay up and Livie don’t get get promoted then Hopkin would be a decent shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I’d say Wright is a more realistic target than Ross. Ross is one of the hottest properties in British Football never mind Scotland. I can’t see any possibility in him being interested. The McCall shout is maybe not so daft, not particularly inspiring but neither are we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 I’d say Wright is a more realistic target than Ross. Ross is one of the hottest properties in British Football never mind Scotland. I can’t see any possibility in him being interested. The McCall shout is maybe not so daft, not particularly inspiring but neither are we. Jack Ross is Derry'd Oot His Nut though tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristov Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Love how all those criticising our big spending on the back of that Record story are now criticising our unwillingness to spend big on a manager.Not saying I disagree but after the f**k up the board made of appointing a permanent successor to Hartley I can't see them doing that. McCann was backed generously last summer. They are most likely going to want a manager to work with what we've got already. McPake would fit that bill assuming he's fully qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylothedog Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Jack Ross told you to bolt when his team were in the 2nd tier. Absolutely no chance he would contemplate the job after winning promotion. Unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Jack Ross told you to bolt when his team were in the 2nd tier. Absolutely no chance he would contemplate the job after winning promotion. Unlucky Nah, he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 What Dundee should have done is moved for Steve Clarke last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 There's a rumour on FB which has now spread through the various versions of social media that we are about to offload McCann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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