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Just now, Billy Rubin said:

The easiest of arguments.   

Is a squad player staring at the 5th best team in the EPL better than (possibly) the best midfielder in the Championship?   

Having seem both play I believe they're of similar stature to each other along with Stuart Armstrong ( who plays at a better level than John McGinn- but this doesn't matter).    Callum MacGregor is more talented than Scott, John, or Stuart but he doesn't play in the EPL but that's not important, because what makes a good player is their ability to play not their club.     

Its also the type of player.  None of those players can defend at all, so are no use for a defensive midfield role.  McTominay is he only one we've got, absolute nailed on starter for the foreseeable future.

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He's been excellent against 3 of the best teams in the world. That's some evidence there to suggest he can do it against teams that aren't the best in the world too. I don't think the questions are necessarily about him and more about his team mates. As we all know... football is a lot easier when your teammates are really good. When they're shite.... you're gonna look shite too because they'll never make the run for your pass and they'll never show for the ball so you lose possession and so on. Great players are absolutely reliant on good or at the least, average  team mates. c***s that can at least pass the fucking ball towards "GIANT TARGET STAR PLAYER!" Scotland still haven't worked out how to even pass the ball and I know these players can pass. I'm on that bandwagon. We're far more shite than we... are?  Joking. I think we're far better than we show and I absolutely believe we can give the top teams a proper game. Going into games thinking you're shite isn't a good start. f**k it.

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Improving... see.... 22... Billy Bremner at 22... this forum woulda spat oan him. Dalglish "Oooo bum like one of them Benny Hill tarts" Jimmy Johnstone "Hahaha get back tae Harry Potter!" As Gordon Strachan once said... "Yer no a paedo if ye shag a 15 yer ald wummin" and I agree with that because it's fact. I'm no' saying it's right.... but I'm also saying it's no wrang.

Sorry, was doing an impression of a Glaswegian there. 
You were doing an impression of a dreadful poster, as usual.

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10 hours ago, Billy Rubin said:

Is a squad player staring at the 5th best team in the EPL better than (possibly) the best midfielder in the Championship?   

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14 hours ago, Gordopolis said:

Vs the Czech Republic in the 2-2 game where he ran his f*cking heart out, dug a goal out of nothing and generally played the inspirational captain role to a T. All while suffering from UC.

Rather impressive I'd say.

In any case the point is it wasn't Fletcher's role to be some kind of creative superstar. His job was to anchor and control the Scotland midfield, which he did, well, on plenty of occasions. But of course if he didn't do a double Rabona and score a hattrick then that means he had a bad game.

He wasn't as bad as the majority made out and had some very good performances for Scotland.

He was damaged goods by the end of his career though and would take the easy option every time. The Poland game where we drew away from home was a hard one to forget. He got the ball about 25 yards from goal in the final minute, in heaps of space and instead of taking the shot he fired a pass to our left back, obviously content with a draw.

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1 hour ago, The Moonster said:

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The whole post deserved this reaction, not just the piece you quoted. However, the quoted sentence is fantastic.

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2 minutes ago, Estragon is a fud said:

Billy Rubin doesn't like anyone playing for Scotland that he deems as being English. He's always got it in for the likes of McTominay, Phillips and McBurnie for that very reason. People should ignore his views.

FTFY

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37 minutes ago, Estragon is a fud said:

Billy Rubin doesn't like anyone playing for Scotland that he deems as being English. He's always got it in for the likes of McTominay, Phillips and McBurnie for that very reason. People should ignore his views.

What a wierd thing to say.   I dislike McBurnie because of his lack of footballing ability, not where he plays.   

12 hours ago, Kuro said:

Its also the type of player.  None of those players can defend at all, so are no use for a defensive midfield role.  McTominay is he only one we've got, absolute nailed on starter for the foreseeable future.

This.   

 

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I don’t think it’s fair to say that Callum McGregor is more talented than McTominay, McGinn or Armstrong. McGregor is also the least proven out of them.

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4 hours ago, Merkland Red said:

He wasn't as bad as the majority made out and had some very good performances for Scotland.

He was damaged goods by the end of his career though and would take the easy option every time. The Poland game where we drew away from home was a hard one to forget. He got the ball about 25 yards from goal in the final minute, in heaps of space and instead of taking the shot he fired a pass to our left back, obviously content with a draw.

Or maybe thinking, correctly,there's more chance of scoring from a cross than him ripping one in the top corner

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53 minutes ago, cameron2000 said:

I don’t think it’s fair to say that Callum McGregor is more talented than McTominay, McGinn or Armstrong. McGregor is also the least proven out of them.

Why don't you think it is "fair" to say that? It's not a question of fairness, it's about an opinion. "Talented" means different things to different people, but for me it tends to refer to how well a player uses the ball (rather than, say, fitness, physicality or goalscoring). I would say that McGregor and Armstrong are the two most "talented" on the list based on that.

I also disagree that he is the least proven on that list. He has more experience than McGinn in almost every measure imaginable, and has played much more European football (including CL & EL groups and EL knockouts) than either of the other two guys. McTominay and Armstrong both have a small amount of English Premier League experience which McGregor doesn't, but it's not like they have hundreds of games under their belt (27 and 25 games, 15 and 14 starts, respectively).

 

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18 minutes ago, Kuro said:

Or maybe thinking, correctly,there's more chance of scoring from a cross than him ripping one in the top corner

The left back is stood on the half way line and has no intentions of going forward.

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Anyone who has watched Mcginn in the last few months would be insane to say he shouldn't have been starting for Scotland. As a Villa fan I'm astounded at his performances recently. He has been magnificent and the villa fans on forums and social media (a notoriously hard to please group) are obsessed with him. He hasn't been lighting it up for Scotland  but nobody has which says something about the manager. Mcginn under a decent Scotland manager will be an absolute legend 

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Anyone who has watched Mcginn in the last few months would be insane to say he shouldn't have been starting for Scotland. As a Villa fan I'm astounded at his performances recently. He has been magnificent and the villa fans on forums and social media (a notoriously hard to please group) are obsessed with him. He hasn't been lighting it up for Scotland  but nobody has which says something about the manager. Mcginn under a decent Scotland manager will be an absolute legend 


Anyone who has watched Scotland over the last few months would be insane to say McGinn looked capable at international level. Being a standout in the sea of mediocrity that is the English championship isn’t really indicative of quality.

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McTominay was named Manchester United's best player against Barcelona by the impartial Gazzetta dello Sport, saying he's rarely mentioned but was exemplary last night and played a perfect game.

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7 hours ago, cameron2000 said:

I don’t think it’s fair to say that Callum McGregor is more talented than  McGinn. McGregor is also the least proven out of them.

McGregor whos played European football for years is less proven and talented than a guy who has played mainly in the same the league and the league below that even has part time teams ffs?

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2 hours ago, Savage Henry said:

 


Anyone who has watched Scotland over the last few months would be insane to say McGinn looked capable at international level. Being a standout in the sea of mediocrity that is the English championship isn’t really indicative of quality.

I mean....I literally talked about his Scotland performances in my post but fire on. Sigh the sea of mediocrity yea? Pretty silly thing to say really. He's  a Scottish player being recognised as a stand out in a tough league but that's not good enough eh? We should only play the Scotland players playing at Barcelona and the like except. ....fill in the rest

 

Edited by swing_kinker

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 He had about 5 and I am not joking .

 

Name an outstanding performance apart from the Netherlands game

 

 FFS, harsh on Fletcher. Forgetting Fletcher, name one outstanding performance for Scotland in the last 20 years! I can’t even think of one off the top of my head!

 

 

I don’t think it’s fair to say that Callum McGregor is more talented than McTominay, McGinn or Armstrong. McGregor is also the least proven out of them.

 

I think it’s fair to say that’s bollux!

 

McTominay was named Manchester United's best player against Barcelona by the impartial Gazzetta dello Sport, saying he's rarely mentioned but was exemplary last night and played a perfect game.

 

Totally agree.

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McTominay has been fantastic recently but let's not start buying into the narrative that he should have been selected for ages because this is a recent development. Not long ago under Jose he was being singled out for high profile horror performances. 

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It's not like Mourinho to single players out for harsh criticism to create scapegoats. No siree. Not something he's EVER done.

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