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At this moment in time, absolutely. 


Fair enough if you're judging it on current levels I might give you Fletcher and Morrison who have no doubt regressed markedly from their peaks, but Brown is still absolutely streets ahead of Jack and Henderson, as are McGregor, McTominay and Armstrong. Ryan Jack on the same level as a boy starting and shining for Manchester United every week. Come on. Ryan Jack ffs.

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59 minutes ago, ali_91 said:

 


Fair enough if you're judging it on current levels I might give you Fletcher and Morrison who have no doubt regressed markedly from their peaks, but Brown is still absolutely streets ahead of Jack and Henderson, as are McGregor, McTominay and Armstrong. Ryan Jack on the same level as a boy starting and shining for Manchester United every week. Come on. Ryan Jack ffs.

 

 I don't think we'd have been significantly weaker if Ryan Jack had played CM on Fri night.   

I'm not fanboying him, or anyone else on the list, just pointing out an obvious strength in depth in the CM area. 

I believe McTominay is slighly better than Jack if you want me to compare the highest profile player on the list with the lowest. 

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2 hours ago, 8MileBU said:

 


Disagree with that completely. Not just because he’s 6ft 4, but McTominay, at the moment, is clearly head and shoulders above those you’ve mentioned. Him and Robertson are our best players by a mile. The flaws in McTominays game you’ve identified can be easily overlooked as it was his first international, and was surrounded by absolute dross that aren’t on his wavelength and no clue what they’re doing.

 

Surly you don't judge a player on his height?McTominay still has a lot to  learn in the game plus to play at international level,with the ball he looks very accomplished but without the ball his positional sense needs to get better.Plus for me he was part blame for the costa rica goal you have got to track the runners.

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Your a EPL fanboy so little surprise with your answer.     

 

You post suggests McTominay plays like the 2nd coming of Andrea Pirlo,  and his craft was vision was diluted by poor movement and positioning.    He's clearly a talented DM, and he did absolutely fine for his first cap.    But to suggest he's 'miles' better than Keiran Tierney or Leigh Griffiths is nonsense.    

 

TBH there isn't a great deal to pick between the following:

 

Scott McTominay

Tom Cairney 

Kevin McDonald 

Callum McGregor 

Stuart Armstrong 

James Morrison 

James McArthur 

Barry Bannan 

Charlie Adam 

Darren Fletcher 

Graham Shinnie 

Kenny McLean 

Graham Dorrans 

John McGinn 

Ryan Jack 

Dylan McGeouch 

Liam Henderson 

Ryan Gauld   

 

...and of course the now retired Scott Brown 

 

It clearly suggests nothing of the sort.

 

Pirlo as a comparative and that list...

 

Surly you don't judge a player on his height? McTominay still has a lot to  learn in the game plus to play at international level,with the ball he looks very accomplished but without the ball his positional sense needs to get better.

 

Of course not.

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Fair enough if you're judging it on current levels I might give you Fletcher and Morrison who have no doubt regressed markedly from their peaks, but Brown is still absolutely streets ahead of Jack and Henderson, as are McGregor, McTominay and Armstrong. Ryan Jack on the same level as a boy starting and shining for Manchester United every week. Come on. Ryan Jack ffs.

Man united could buy any of the players above in a second pay them quadruple. The fact that they don’t suggests mctominay is a better player

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19 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:

Surly you don't judge a player on his height?McTominay still has a lot to  learn in the game plus to play at international level,with the ball he looks very accomplished but without the ball his positional sense needs to get better.

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1 hour ago, Millions said:

McTominay, Armstrong and McGregor is our strongest 3.

Also emoji23.pngemoji23.png at Ryan Jack

I'd probably agree with that. Those 3 are all different types of central midfielder too which is positive. McArthur and McGinn are not far behind those 3 either. 

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It’s the he must be pure dead brilliant because he is the books on a big side mentality. He is okay but my issue he will be guaranteed a game now , irrespective of form or if he is suddenly dropped by mouriniho

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2 hours ago, DAVIDB69 said:

It’s the he must be pure dead brilliant because he is the books on a big side mentality. He is okay but my issue he will be guaranteed a game now , irrespective of form or if he is suddenly dropped by mouriniho

I don't think it's likely he'll be a starter over the next year. He's a great prospect but it'd be worth McLeish picking more experienced players in the middle to begin with.

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I don't think it's likely he'll be a starter over the next year. He's a great prospect but it'd be worth McLeish picking more experienced players in the middle to begin with.

 

But isn’t that just reverting the good old jobs for the auld boys formula that’s got us absolutely nowhere for 20+ years?

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But isn’t that just reverting the good old formula of jobs for the auld boys formula that’s got us absolutely nowhere for 20+ years?

Yeah I'd hate to see us knee-jerk into starting all the 30-plussers because of a false start vs Costa Rica

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11 hours ago, Gordopolis said:


Yeah I'd hate to see us knee-jerk into starting all the 30-plussers because of a false start vs Costa Rica

But at the same time "knee-jerking" is exactly what people were resorting to with the whole "eternal failures" argument.  The solution is always to keep the experienced players that can still do a job and feed in the younger players that can make a difference.  Or, put more simply, just play the best combined 11 we can, regardless of if they're 16 or 36.

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But at the same time "knee-jerking" is exactly what people were resorting to with the whole "eternal failures" argument.  The solution is always to keep the experienced players that can still do a job and feed in the younger players that can make a difference.  Or, put more simply, just play the best combined 11 we can, regardless of if they're 16 or 36.

Totes. Mulgrew, Berra, Fletcher etc still have a part to play for us. So too do Chris Martin and Steven Fletcher to a lesser degree. What would be shit tho is if the likes of McKenna was put in cold storage till he's 25 because we're scared that he might not be perfect. A blend is the answer e.g for the defence Berra, McKenna plus Mulgrew or Souttar/Lyndsay/Hendry when McLeish finds the right game to break them in

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Has he started for his Club since he made his International debut???
Don't think he has, did we break him???

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5 hours ago, King Kebab said:

Has he started for his Club since he made his International debut???
Don't think he has, did we break him???

Probably more to do with Pogba not being rancid the past few games.

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On 18/03/2018 at 18:33, Bobby Skidmarks said:

Telling lies to try and impress strangers on the internet seems to be a trend on here, you’ll fit right in on the Bo’ness thread.

Oh my.

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Joining Burke on loan at Celtic apparently!!!

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