Miguel Sanchez Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Hammy away in a huff. Aw dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Hamilton's offski!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Hamilton can't be away in a huff surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'd love to see a tweet from a P&Ber up on the wall in this bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 He's in a proper huff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Lots of gnashing teeth on C4. "Kimi ruined Lewis' race. That was the end of Lewis' race" he finished second, which is arguably better than where he would've finished had he not been hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 "My team did an amazing job this weekend, we got so much support. Interesting tactics I would say from their side, but we'll do what we can to fight them." :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 And his fans wonder why people don't like him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. Brightside said: How is the Kimi incident different to Vettel's? Maybe because Kimi didn't loose as much in the contact as Vettel did in France. Absolute verge of tears (that's still a thing right) from Lewis and Mercs here though, both incidents where the prime definition of a racing incident, to claim otherwise glosses over the fact that any marginal gains they now make in the car doesn't give the same performance boost they used to get. This car is coming to the end of it's development cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, Mackie The Staggie said: Maybe because Kimi didn't loose as much in the contact as Vettel did in France. Absolute verge of tears (that's still a thing right) from Lewis and Mercs here though, both incidents where the prime definition of a racing incident, to claim otherwise glosses over the fact that any marginal gains they now make in the car doesn't give the same performance boost they used to get. This car is coming to the end of it's development cycle. Ferrari must have brilliant strategists if they can plan on Kimi taking Hamilton out deliberately after Hamilton makes a c**t of the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 What is the point in having different levels of yellow flag cover, one of which meaning slow down and be prepared to stop, if they just bring a safety car out any time a car goes off now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 What is the point in having different levels of yellow flag cover, one of which meaning slow down and be prepared to stop, if they just bring a safety car out any time a car goes off now? Car running off track - yellow flag until they are back on.Car breaking down - yellow flag and hopefully quick recovery of the car near an escape road.Car smashing into a barrier at fast corner with a high chance of being collected by another crashing car - safety car.It’s not really that difficult.What about the Perez/Williams near collision at the start btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Agreed. Especially after what happened with Bianchi they can take no chances if there is a recovery vehicle at the side of the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I get the whole safety first take no chances thing but surely a full safety car should be absolute last resort, imo that means debris/cars on the track, as it completely resets the race.The original incident that brought out the safety car was miles off track in an unusual place to go off at that angle, surely that comes under either double waved yellows or if you want to be super cautious then vsc. I don't see the need to reset a race for what is going to be a quick recovery when they have 2 other adequate conditions to cover it under, just don't want to see F1 go down the indycar route and turn races into a last 5 lap sprint with the pack bunched up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, JamesP_81 said: I get the whole safety first take no chances thing but surely a full safety car should be absolute last resort, imo that means debris/cars on the track, as it completely resets the race. The original incident that brought out the safety car was miles off track in an unusual place to go off at that angle, surely that comes under either double waved yellows or if you want to be super cautious then vsc. I don't see the need to reset a race for what is going to be a quick recovery when they have 2 other adequate conditions to cover it under, just don't want to see F1 go down the indycar route and turn races into a last 5 lap sprint with the pack bunched up. Usually the rule is if a car goes off/stops “out of the line of fire “ (as Martin Brundle calls it), then there is no need for a VSC/SC. But if there is an incident in line with the racing line, especially at a high speed flat out corner, then there has to be a SC. Get what you are saying but they can’t take the chance incase there is another crash just like the first incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 totally ridiculous comments from team Merc always cheated never defeated . Ferrari are just far quicker off the line to come out and blame a team for intentionally taking them out they should be reprimanded by the FIA. Vettel takes out Bottas hurting his title hopes and Kimi takes out Hamilton after Hamilton's terrible start. Vettel was head and shoulders above the rest on Sunday end of story. Final few laps were fantastic to watch although the safety cars made it interesting . Surely Merc left Bottas out knowing Hamilton would get past him as well tactics?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 No according to Andrew Benson it was another breathtakingly aggressive move to cap Hamilton's Senna-esque charge up to, err, 6th without the safety cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I see Hamilton has now come out saying his comment was "Dumb" no shit sherlock team should follow. I imagine this is Benson anytime he sees or speaks about Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 13 hours ago, JamesP_81 said: I get the whole safety first take no chances thing but surely a full safety car should be absolute last resort, imo that means debris/cars on the track, as it completely resets the race.The original incident that brought out the safety car was miles off track in an unusual place to go off at that angle, surely that comes under either double waved yellows or if you want to be super cautious then vsc. I don't see the need to reset a race for what is going to be a quick recovery when they have 2 other adequate conditions to cover it under, just don't want to see F1 go down the indycar route and turn races into a last 5 lap sprint with the pack bunched up. If you are referring to the Ericsson crash then the fact he crashed shows that people can come off there. Obviously you can slow it right down by VSC etc but you are just putting the marshalls at risk. As Iain Morton said they just won't take any chances after Bianchi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 9 hours ago, virginton said: No according to Andrew Benson it was another breathtakingly aggressive move to cap Hamilton's Senna-esque charge up to, err, 6th without the safety cars. I thought Hamilton finished 2nd? You can't really say 6th without safety cars........who is to say without safety cars the other top 5 cars don't all crash out allowing him to win the race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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