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3 hours ago, Aberdeen Cowden said:

Just wait until you get to Kingsford.

You’re wasting your time. There is clearly some sort of comprehension problem going on here. They insist on talking about the parking problems pre-game and traffic jams post-game but It has been explained many, many times. The advantage of where Pittodrie is has everything to do with the number of restaurants, bars, pubs, coffee shops and assorted other eateries and drinkeries and nothing at all to do with ease of access.

The parking and traffic jam problems will still be there when AFC moves to the outer rim of civilisation, but the myriad choices of places to eat and drink will not. Building a Burger King or Bella Italia will not transform it into the city centre. The suggestion there are already adequate hostelries in and around Westhill/Kingswells would make Nigel Farage blush.

Frankly, the people who drive to the football at ten to three expecting a parking space near the ground deserve what they get. Likewise them that scarper at quarter to five, jump in their cars to go home deserve to sit in traffic for 45 minutes.

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I know people hate the idea of shuttle buses but, if they're done properly, the reality is nowhere near as bad as some people on here are making out. I've been to the Madjeski Stadium and the Agaes Bowl quite a few times, and they're both out of town grounds where you need shuttle buses. I've never queued for more than 10 minutes at either. It just needs needs to be organised properly.

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1 hour ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

I know people hate the idea of shuttle buses but, if they're done properly, the reality is nowhere near as bad as some people on here are making out. I've been to the Madjeski Stadium and the Agaes Bowl quite a few times, and they're both out of town grounds where you need shuttle buses. I've never queued for more than 10 minutes at either. It just needs needs to be organised properly.

Who's going to pay for these buses? 

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Supply a  (reasonably) succesful team, and build a stadium that the fans can enjoy......not necessarily Spurs' new ground, but a stadium with good sight-lines and one that is enclosed with a good atmosphere.

That's all the club need. If you've got these 2 things right, then people will come regardless of traffic and pubs.

 

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Who's going to pay for these buses? 
Said this before but the companies who run buses to away games will be quite happy to make money by charging people to get out to the new ground on a day where their expensive assets would otherwise be lying idle. The fans will pay for the buses, return fare would be the price of a pint, the bus company will make a profit & everyone is happy.

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25 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

Supply a  (reasonably) succesful team, and build a stadium that the fans can enjoy......not necessarily Spurs' new ground, but a stadium with good sight-lines and one that is enclosed with a good atmosphere.

That's all the club need. If you've got these 2 things right, then people will come regardless of traffic and pubs.

 

True but its inevitable that performances on the pitch will dip over a 50-60 year period or however long. How good the stadium is and how much of a pain in the arse it is to get there will determine how quickly and how many will abandon the club during those times.

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16 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:
38 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:
Who's going to pay for these buses? 

Said this before but the companies who run buses to away games will be quite happy to make money by charging people to get out to the new ground on a day where their expensive assets would otherwise be lying idle. The fans will pay for the buses, return fare would be the price of a pint, the bus company will make a profit & everyone is happy.

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

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You're making a lot of assumptions here.
What are they? Companies have buses that will otherwise be idle, fans will need to get to the ground from the City Centre. Fair to say they might not be happy to start with but like everything else they will get used to it, to be honest I couldn't care less about Aberdeen or their fans but in this instance there is a pretty obvious solution for home fans or away fans who travel by train to get out there.

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27 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

Not fitting in with your doom and gloom scenario?

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Said this before but the companies who run buses to away games will be quite happy to make money by charging people to get out to the new ground on a day where their expensive assets would otherwise be lying idle. The fans will pay for the buses, return fare would be the price of a pint, the bus company will make a profit & everyone is happy.


So I’ll have to sacrifice a pint to jump on a fucking peasant wagon to the middle of countryside? Sounds superb

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So I’ll have to sacrifice a pint to jump on a fucking peasant wagon to the middle of countryside? Sounds superb

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No just spend an additional pints worth, you are already spending several times that to watch the shite inside the stadium.

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1 hour ago, jamamafegan said:

 


So I’ll have to sacrifice a pint to jump on a fucking peasant wagon to the middle of countryside? Sounds superb

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It's Aberdeen's new ground we're talking about, not McDairmid. 

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2 hours ago, Moomintroll said:
2 hours ago, Tibbermoresaint said:
You're making a lot of assumptions here.

What are they? Companies have buses that will otherwise be idle, fans will need to get to the ground from the City Centre. Fair to say they might not be happy to start with but like everything else they will get used to it, to be honest I couldn't care less about Aberdeen or their fans but in this instance there is a pretty obvious solution for home fans or away fans who travel by train to get out there.

Which companies are going to have large numbers of buses and drivers available on Saturdays? If they are going to be used as shuttles, it'll be at least 30mins each way .

Maybe not so bad before the game but at the end of the game some folk will have a lengthy wait.

The whole thing hasn't been thought out properly.

Not a gloom and doom scenario , just common sense. Better to get it sorted now.

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Which companies are going to have large numbers of buses and drivers available on Saturdays? If they are going to be used as shuttles, it'll be at least 30mins each way .
Maybe not so bad before the game but at the end of the game some folk will have a lengthy wait.
The whole thing hasn't been thought out properly.
Not a gloom and doom scenario , just common sense. Better to get it sorted now.
The companies who usually hire their buses out to Aberdeen Supporters Clubs for away games, it stands to reason that if Aberdeen are at home then these buses logically will not be in use.

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It's a wonder anything new is ever built as apparently new bus routes and transport are impossible to arrange no matter the timescale.

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47 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:

It's Aberdeen's new ground we're talking about, not McDairmid. 

McDiarmid stand free, McDiarmid. Would've thought since you've fucking stayed in Perth you'd at least get the name right. 

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35 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:
41 minutes ago, Aberdeen Cowden said:
Which companies are going to have large numbers of buses and drivers available on Saturdays? If they are going to be used as shuttles, it'll be at least 30mins each way .
Maybe not so bad before the game but at the end of the game some folk will have a lengthy wait.
The whole thing hasn't been thought out properly.
Not a gloom and doom scenario , just common sense. Better to get it sorted now.

The companies who usually hire their buses out to Aberdeen Supporters Clubs for away games, it stands to reason that if Aberdeen are at home then these buses logically will not be in use.

You are missing the point. Almost everyone travelling to Kingsford will either be in a car or bus. A significantly larger number than travel to away games. If there are so many folk at the stadium that they have to use the buses for "shuttling" some fans are going to have a long wait.

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1 hour ago, Rodhull said:

It's a wonder anything new is ever built as apparently new bus routes and transport are impossible to arrange no matter the timescale.

Hardly the best argument given that Aberdeen's civic leaders have happily relied on one main train station and a fleet of shan buses to move inhabitants around its tinpot 'city' for decades. Perhaps if Aberdeen had a public transport system that wasn't modeled on post-communist Albania then an out of town ground would work, but for now it does not.

 

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2 hours ago, Aberdeen Cowden said:

Which companies are going to have large numbers of buses and drivers available on Saturdays? If they are going to be used as shuttles, it'll be at least 30mins each way .

Maybe not so bad before the game but at the end of the game some folk will have a lengthy wait.

The whole thing hasn't been thought out properly.

Not a gloom and doom scenario , just common sense. Better to get it sorted now.

It works at Reading, another out of town ground with similar crowds to Aberdeen.

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I know people hate the idea of shuttle buses but, if they're done properly, the reality is nowhere near as bad as some people on here are making out. I've been to the Madjeski Stadium and the Agaes Bowl quite a few times, and they're both out of town grounds where you need shuttle buses. I've never queued for more than 10 minutes at either. It just needs needs to be organised properly.


Reading play about as far from the train station as St Johnstone so they’re not as extreme a case as Kingsford but they’re probably a good model.

The football club subsidise the buses so they’ve got 15 routes on match day

https://www.readingfc.co.uk/club/travel/buses-trains/

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