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5 minutes ago, Enigma said:

SOSL is a funny wee league. I guess if in the fantasy scenario of the West/East/Highland regional split, and the West juniors becoming the West pyramid you’d tack the SOSL on below the Superleagues and next to the Ayrshire district and Central district leagues, it certainly shouldn’t feed strait into the lowland league.

Seaside Leagues thread for that sort of pish...

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On 16/03/2018 at 12:25, Enigma said:

SOSL is a funny wee league. I guess if in the fantasy scenario of the West/East/Highland regional split, and the West juniors becoming the West pyramid you’d tack the SOSL on below the Superleagues and next to the Ayrshire district and Central district leagues, it certainly shouldn’t feed strait into the lowland league.

The West Juniors are restructuring next season to a 16-16-16-16 format without any regionalisation, so this wouldn't be an option any more.

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The West Juniors are restructuring next season to a 16-16-16-16 format without any regionalisation, so this wouldn't be an option any more.


With a fair number of new clubs and competitions appearing over the last few years is there not a concern about having enough officials to cover all the matches across the various levels?
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There are still going to be roughly the same number of teams playing every week, so it shouldn't make much of a difference.  More generally, you're seeing a lot of Juniors games only having referees and no assistants, and that will probably be the norm below Tier 5 quite soon.

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From the juniors subforum:

9 hours ago, .Stuart. said:

Taken from the Kilwinning Rangers FB page.


On Friday night we chatted about the current situation in the East with the SJFA and rumours of upto 7 teams leaving the Junior game, new information has been provided by Kelty, it might not be 100% accurate but it's worth sharing, also Kelty have announced an increase in support even though they tend to win every match 10 nil, which was something that was raised at the meeting.

The East of Scotland have offered to start a West Division should there be interest, we've been informed that 5 Super Premier teams are currently interested

From Kelty
What does the East of Scotland Football League have to offer?

• Membership of EOSFL which confirms acceptance of and commitment to the pyramid system thereby satisfying a mandatory requirement of being granted a Club Licence. SJFA - No
• Automatic entry to the Scottish Cup for Champion Club irrespective of licencing status which will generate a minimum income in excess of £3,000 SJFA - YES
• 3 ways of Scottish Cup Entry, EOS & SOS League Champions, Alex Jack Cup Winner, Any Licenced Club SJFA - No
• £3,000 Funding towards ground improvements available to all un-licenced clubs looking to gain their SFA Licence. SJFA - No
• Up to £10,000 funding as an EOS club available from Scottish Football Partnership towards ground improvements. SJFA - No
• Our ambition is to have all Members licenced as soon as possible and thereby automatically in the Scottish Cup every year. SJFA - No
• Very likely more promotion places will be available to enter the Lowland League from Tier 6. SJFA - No
• Depending on interest from that area a possible West Of Scotland division would be looked at for tier 6. SJFA - Yes
• SFA Sports First Aid courses at heavily discounted rates (or free of charge). SFA Licence compliant. SJFA - No
• All clubs supplied with a defibrillator and associated training. SFA Licence compliant. SJFA - No
• Bespoke personalised first aid bag. SJFA - No
• Personal Accident and Liability insurance incl. player to player liability paid for by the League. SFA Licence compliant. SJFA - No (EOS supply all 3 insurances that pass Licence criteria)
• Match balls and training balls supplied each season. SJFA - Yes (Matchballs only)
• Coaching courses at heavily discounted rates (or free of charge) up to C Licence level. SJFA - Unsure
• Prize money for those Clubs finishing in the top four in the league. SJFA - Yes
• A sound organisational structure with fixtures issued on a seasonal basis. SJFA - No
• In combination with the Scottish Lowland League and the South of Scotland League an U20 development league for the development of a player pathway. SJFA - No
• Automatic entry for the U20 team into the Scottish Youth Cup. SJFA - No

LOWLAND LEAGUE (added to above)
• As it stands winner goes into a play off for promotion to SPFL. SJFA - No
• Winner gets automatic entry into the Betfred Cup Group Stage, £17,000 minimum prize money, guaranteed 2 home matches in group also. SJFA - No
• Top 4 qualify for Irn Bru Cup, minimum £3,000 Prize money. SJFA - No
• Up to £20,000 funding as a LL club available from Scottish Football Partnership towards ground improvements. SJFA - No

SJFA
• Scottish Junior Cup, £8,000 Prize money for winner . Tier 5/6 No
• West region setup although It’s not part of the pyramid. Tier 5/6 No
• Local and regional rivalries built over decades. Tier 5/6 In some cases No but will have as it evolves

Happy to be corrected on anything here but when you see it written like this it’s shocking the way the SJFA have mismanaged the grade for their member clubs. These innovative and progressional rewards and solid structure of being part of the pyramid and the advantages that went with it was available to all Junior clubs, pity the SJFA chose not to engage.

If the SJFA had canvassed their member clubs with all this information on what being part of the pyramid could offer a lot more would I’m sure have wanted to look at integrating as 1 through the SJFA, none of this research was shared with a pros and cons approach out of what now seems like snobbery, scandalous really.

It’s at the stage now where it’s either over to the SJFA clubs to take matters into their own hands or put your clubs future and trust in the guys running the SJFA.

*this information might not be accrurate and has been copied from another source

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On 3/18/2018 at 23:35, Dindeleux said:

 


With a fair number of new clubs and competitions appearing over the last few years is there not a concern about having enough officials to cover all the matches across the various levels?

 

Getting more officials shouldn't be a problem - the more experienced referee's who regularly do lines will most likely get more games in the middle at lower level games and they'll get more amateur referee's to do AR (similar to Junior setup). I'd be more concerned about the quality dropping even more with a diluted list of referees.

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