Guest Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, DiegoDiego said: Sorry, but that's exactly how these things happen in US sport. The US model has generating profit for owners and shareholders as the only aim. The franchises are companies and spectators are mere customers. Everything is done with remaining profitable as the sole motive, player salary caps and the rest. The problem with that coming to Europe is that local people would be putting a portion of their hard-earned wages into their local football clubs then would see profit being extracted from that by a parasitic ownership class, as now happens at eg. Man Utd and Liverpool. The traditional European model is where the money is reinvested back into the club or local community (via things like subsidised kids' football sessions). Edinburgh council and West Lothian council were not interested in making profit, obviously, but in providing amenities to the local populations they govern for. That's why the Commonwealth games were bid for then hosted in Edinburgh and Meadowbank Stadium built in the first place. It's what West Lothian council were doing with the stadium they then built. As I put in a previous comment, it's my belief Bill Hunter was in it for a profit (although he'd deny that). He probably pushed for the move to Livingston as he thought he could create something valuable to then sell on. So I do think there were capitalist opportunists involved. However, other parties involved such as the John Bain clique and local government were definitely not in it for those reasons. My comment you quote from there was a reply to Vincent Guerin saying Livingston are "just below the Old Firm in being vectors of the American model" (I'm paraphrasing). That's very inaccurate. While Livi aren't collectively-owned like Motherwell or St Mirren, which would be the ideal, the current owners are actively promoting the "50 + 1" German-style model to Livi fans as the long term target. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Bartender Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Are we entitled to bang on about Rangers? Absolutely, Sarge. Lash at it. Unless of course they relocate. To England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The traditional European model is where the money is reinvested back into the club or local community (via things like subsidised kids' football sessions).Reinvesting money into the club is just a way for owners to make their asset more valuable. That's what owners in the US have been doing incredibly successfully over the last decade and have seen clubs' valuations soar. Everything is done with an eye to increasing revenue and making the club more valuable.Owners in Europe are trying to do exactly the same thing. It's just a lot more difficult to make vast sums from Airdrieonians than it is the Chicago Bears. Folk like Jacqui Low aren't involved out of a sense of public duty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Apparently they want to move to Crownpoint. Leaving a soulless new town to move to an Athletics stadium in a big city? Edited October 4, 2022 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Leaving a soulless new town to move to an Athletics stadium in a big city? TBF it's little over a mile away from Shawfield. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: This is what this thread is about. Actual butchers apron in the sole!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: Orange hi-viz = extra staunch points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: Orange hi-viz = extra staunch points That's actually the fifth Castore jersey produced this season for the berrrz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Vinny leading the peasants at the imminent announcement of Third Lanark’s rebirth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Apparently they want to move to Crownpoint. That was last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Is there not talk of Celtic being interested in Crownpoint for their women's team? Not sure what that means for Clyde, whether they could do a deal etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Is there not talk of Celtic being interested in Crownpoint for their women's team? Not sure what that means for Clyde, whether they could do a deal etc. Sounds too staunch imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Philistines. Ned ISIS obliterating art wherever they can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tamthebam Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Never mind Livingston, Clyde and Airdrie, what about those Jags b*****ds- leave Partick for the lush hinterland of Maryhill over 100 years ago and still claim the name of the area they fucked off from. Shocking! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 [/url] [/url]In my tired state, At first glance, i wondered what it was Gerrard had in his hand, until i realised it was the guys jersey.[emoji1751] 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, buchan30 said: In my tired state,m. At first glance, i wondered what it was Gerrard had in his hand, until i realised it was the guys jersey. It looks like a ghost so probably Rangers 1873-2012.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prov Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: Why has one of them taken a cushion with them? Terminal piles? Credit where it's due, they never cease to be weird... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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