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Bobby Murdoch remonstrates with a pre knighthood Alex Ferguson after a robust 'challenge' on Billy McNeil in the 1969 Scottish Cup final.

This is closer than Fergie got to McNeil than in the 2nd minute when he failed to pick him up at a corner and Caesar headed Celtic into the lead in what was to prove an embarrassingly easy 4-0 win, sealing the treble.

Legend has it Rangers manager Davy White was so incensed at Ferguson that day it sealed him being bombed out the door at Ibrox, this was his final game for Rangers, it's believed he held such a grudge over being made the scapegoat that day he took more pleasure in horsing the them in subsequent years as a manager than he did any other club, despite being a bluenose as a boy brought up in the shadows of Ibrox in Govan.

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I know he played for Falkirk, but it was well before my time.

What type of player was Fergie? (No obvious "dirty bassa" comments please)

Surely not just an elbows everywhere, rumble 'em up sort. Could he actually play? Who in modern times would he be similar to?

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My dad said he was a hard centre forward who often pushed the boundaries with elbows and sly kicks, talented but a dirty swine are his exact words.

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31 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

I know he played for Falkirk, but it was well before my time.

What type of player was Fergie? (No obvious "dirty bassa" comments please)

Surely not just an elbows everywhere, rumble 'em up sort. Could he actually play? Who in modern times would he be similar to?

Before my time when he played for Ayr too, but there is cracking YouTube footage of him scoring against Motherwell where you get the idea of what kind of player he was.

Beyond my technical abilities to post a link though.:(

 

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91 goals for us, including 7 in Europe, which I believe makes him the joint top scorer for us in Europe (the other of course being Bert Paton).

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The Welsh are still raging at Joe Jordan for this over 40 years later... 8)

My dad was at Anfield that night, said we outnumbered the Wales support five to one.

Any older posters know why the Welsh FA switched what was there home tie?

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24 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

My dad said he was a hard centre forward who often pushed the boundaries with elbows and sly kicks, talented but a dirty swine are his exact words.

Far from unique traits at the time, and actually quite tame when compared to the tactics of Leeds (i.e. just about every game they played) or even Racing Club (i.e. Battle of Montevideo). 

If the current rules on yellow and red cards were applied to a lot of games back then, we'd probably be looking at the highlights of the ref standing in the centre circle watching a game of long-bangers between the two goalies.

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Frank Mcavennie scores his only goal for Scotland against Australia in a 2-0 play off win that took us to the Mexico 86 world cup.

Frank got four, yes FOUR caps for Scotland because Andy Roxburgh didnt like his attitude and lifestyle, same reason players like Charlie Nicholas and him barely featured under him.

A criminal under use of talent, if only we had more like them today we might make the odd tournament. 

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Celtic fans giving not a f**k about health and safety at the 1985 Scottish Cup final v Dundee Utd.

I was at this game as a nine year old, my dad drove through after reading in that mornings paper the terracing was pay at the gate..  on cup final day !!

My abiding memory is of being terrified of the congestion inside but moreso, outside, the turnstiles back then were at the top of the stairs behind that goal at Hampden and it was dangerously overcrowded at said turnstiles, an Ibrox/Hillsborough style disaster could so easily have occured there that day or any other with such a huge crowd.

Saw little of Celtic's 2-1 win bar Davie Provans free kick as I was sitting on my 18 year old brothers shoulders at that point.

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1 hour ago, Flybhoy said:

Celtic fans giving not a f**k about health and safety at the 1985 Scottish Cup final v Dundee Utd.

I was at this game as a nine year old, my dad drove through after reading in that mornings paper the terracing was pay at the gate..  on cup final day !!

My abiding memory is of being terrified of the congestion inside but moreso, outside, the turnstiles back then were at the top of the stairs behind that goal at Hampden and it was dangerously overcrowded at said turnstiles, an Ibrox/Hillsborough style disaster could so easily have occured there that day or any other with such a huge crowd.

Saw little of Celtic's 2-1 win bar Davie Provans free kick as I was sitting on my 18 year old brothers shoulders at that point.

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My dad did the same thing. We didn't support either team, just went because we could. Wasn't  it the hundredth cup final?

Being in the losing end set the tone for the rest of my football suppoting life.

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Jinky presents Charlie Nicholas with his top goalscorer award in 1981 wearing a dapper suit whilst, Charlie is, frankly wearing short shorts revealing far too much !

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12 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

The Welsh are still raging at Joe Jordan for this over 40 years later... 8)

My dad was at Anfield that night, said we outnumbered the Wales support five to one.

Any older posters know why the Welsh FA switched what was there home tie?

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The game was moved there for financial reasons.

Wales played home games then at Ninian Park in Cardiff, or at Wrexham.  Anfield was much bigger and could yield more income.  It effectively sacrificed home advantage though which was criminal really, given what was riding on the game.

The Welsh FA was heavily criticised for the decision and it wasn't repeated eight years later in similar circumstances for the game which also turned on a controversial Scotland penalty for handball, and finished with Stein's death.

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12 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Frank Mcavennie scores his only goal for Scotland against Australia in a 2-0 play off win that took us to the Mexico 86 world cup.

Frank got four, yes FOUR caps for Scotland because Andy Roxburgh didn't like his attitude and lifestyle, same reason players like Charlie Nicholas and him barely featured under him.

A criminal under use of talent, if only we had more like them today we might make the odd tournament. 

And both him and Brown  played that muppet Aitken in most games.  

That was one of the reasons I stopped going to Scotland games for a number of years as they weren't playing the best players.  (Sounds a bit like someone else who left the Scotland manager roles recently)

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Celtic's Brian McClair wheels away in delight after scoring v Rangers in 1986, some quality mullets from him and goalkeeper Nicky Walker and a quite outstanding perm from a seated and dejected Dave McPherson. 

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Celtic's Brian McClair wheels away in delight after scoring v Rangers in 1986, some quality mullets from him and goalkeeper Nicky Walker and a quite outstanding perm from a seated and dejected Dave McPherson. 
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Brian McClair, the pioneer of ‘doing it for club but not for country’, as was imitated in years to come by Paul McStay, Barry Ferguson and Scott Brown.

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