Specky Ginger Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, SlipperyP said: going back a page, about cup finals played at a home pitch. Were Celtic not using Hampden Park season 94-95, when they reached both the League Cup and Scottish Cup Final? That's right. When we played them in the League Cup Final it was moved to Ibrox, but when Airdrie played them in the Scottish Cup Final it was at Hampden. I'm sure the authorities had some bizarre explanation along the lines of - because the league season had finished by the time of the Scottish Cup Final, it was no longer a home game for Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 The three Scottish players charged in the 1964 English Leagues betting scandal: all were jailed. Jimmy Gauld was seen as the main character in court, having implicated himself by selling his story for £7000 to the Sunday People. He started out at home town club Aberdeen, an attacking inside forward, but never made the grade as a teenager. Moving to Ireland then to England, his career blossomed to the extent that Everton paid Charlton a substantial fee for his services, and Swindon Town also laid out a record sum for him. He also played for Plymouth, Mansfield and St Johnstone. Fined £5000, his sentence was 4 years imprisonment. Ken Thomson was around the same age as Gauld, and played at centre half for Aberdeen as a youngster at the same time Gauld was at the club. In England he made many appearances for Stoke City, and in the early 'sixties moved to Ayresome Park while setting in Middlesbrough, and had a season with Harlepools United. He was sentenced to 6 months in jail and later died of a heart attack while playing golf aged 39. A big fan of the 'cuddies', Dick Beattie often sported a jockey cap while keeping goal for Celtic, Portsmouth, Peterborough and St Mirren, in a career spanning over 300 seniour matches. He was in goal in the famous Celtic 7-1 League Cup Final win over Rangers in 1957. While at Peterborough, he appeared to lose form to the extent that he made few appearances. The final straw appeared to be a match where Beattie was supposed to ease opponents QPR to an away victory, but no matter what he did, the away side couldn't score. Thus, in the final minutes, he threw the ball to the closest unmarked opposition forward who ran in to net the visitors an unlikely winner. Banned from football for life following 9 months in jail, Beattie went to work in the Glasgow shipyards. In total, 33 players were prosecuted for their part in the 1964 fixing scandal, the most famous of which were Sheffield Wednesday's trio of Kay, Swan and Lane. Although all were banned for life, Swan and Layne, who had been an ex team mate of Gauld's at Swindon, successfully appealed to the FA after a rule change in 1971, and returned to the senior game in 1972. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 13 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: The final straw appeared to be a match where Beattie was supposed to ease opponents QPR to an away victory, but no matter what he did, the away side couldn't score. Thus, in the final minutes, he threw the ball to the closest unmarked opposition forward who ran in to net the visitors an unlikely winner. That sounds a lot like the penultimate appearance of Jamie Langfield's career against Dumbarton. Video starts at the offending moment. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 25/12/2022 at 04:02, Eednud said: Football used to be played on Christmas Day and this is from one of 2 games played on this day in 1976 (2-2 att: 7,675). The other Alloa 2 Cowdenbeath 1 (731). Think this has been posted before but never mind as it’s a good way to wish all a Merry Christmas. It's amazing to think that only ten years later from this match he would already have been manager of Manchester United for a month but had accomplished so much in Scottish Football (and beyond) in between 1976 and 1986 , completely changed the fortunes of Aberdeen and taken Scotland national team to a World Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Century ago today Airdrieonians bought Broomfield Park from North British Railway. Perhaps not coincidental this was only days before that company was absorbed into the new LNER. Edited December 28, 2022 by HibeeJibee 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I don't think it's just pure nostalgia that says these grounds were so much better than the things that replaced them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Century ago today Airdrieonians bought Broomfield Park from North British Railway. Perhaps not coincidental this was only days before that company was absorbed into the new LNER. Broomfield was a great wee ground. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't think it's just pure nostalgia that says these grounds were so much better than the things that replaced them. Agree, but Airdrie did a much better job than most. Especially my beloved Sons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't think it's just pure nostalgia that says these grounds were so much better than the things that replaced them. Only went to Airdrie twice, and once was against Clyde in the Centenary Cup, but it was a great town centre venue. Leaving there was the start of the death of the old club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Boghead ranter said: Agree, but Airdrie did a much better job than most. Especially my beloved Sons. It’s a nice enough ground but too big and in a crap location. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, cowdenbeath said: It’s a nice enough ground but too big and in a crap location. Yeah, but 'nice' locations are a lot dearer to buy land on. At least it has more than one side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Boghead ranter said: Yeah, but 'nice' locations are a lot dearer to buy land on. At least it has more than one side. Aye that’s why they would have sold it. They were lucky to build a complete stadium but ultimately at the cost of the old club. I imagine the Rock was built on cheap land at the time but I imagine it is worth a fortune with the houses getting closer. I would say it is in a better location than Boghead was for the station, pubs etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, cowdenbeath said: Aye that’s why they would have sold it. They were lucky to build a complete stadium but ultimately at the cost of the old club. I imagine the Rock was built on cheap land at the time but I imagine it is worth a fortune with the houses getting closer. I would say it is in a better location than Boghead was for the station, pubs etc. The Rock's location is outstanding. The actual stadium, not so much. Though it's the right size for our needs, has to be said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 It's not just location though is it, although that's a huge part of it? I know that it's facile to eulogise about appalling toilets and crumbling steps, but the fact is that grounds were distinct then, they catered for their numbers, they gave supporters choice and they were indeed better located in the main. I know that finances -that God to whom we must bow regarding simply everything - meant that selling up and moving made sense. However, measuring what s been lost against what's been gained must feel sobering. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Dumbarton didn't need to make an all seater stand. They could have had some terracing somewhere, like behind the goals, or even incorporated in to the stand, and had a smaller stand for those who wish to sit at games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 These stadiums are products of their time: move to all seaters after disasters, and visions for 10k rule from 1990 that was formalised in 1994 then codified by SPL in 1998. e.g. apart from open ends at Forthbank, did anybody incorporate terraces into new or substantially rebuilt grounds? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 You'd have thought the current rules (in place since 2013) would have seen a move to new builds at lower levels incorporating terracing again, but if Queen's Park are anything to go by we're progressing to stadiums even worse than Dumbarton and East Fife. Also applies to Meadowbank as well, albeit the football club have had very little say in that disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Dunning1874 said: You'd have thought the current rules (in place since 2013) would have seen a move to new builds at lower levels incorporating terracing again, but if Queen's Park are anything to go by we're progressing to stadiums even worse than Dumbarton and East Fife. Also applies to Meadowbank as well, albeit the football club have had very little say in that disaster. The thickos procuring them will be getting bamboozled by the charlatan builders to go for the unnecessarily expensive option. "Standing, ooft, do you want another Hillsborough on your conscience? Bit we only git 5 hunner at hame, max. Have you seen this safe standing"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Many chairmen seem to think that fans not only prefer sitting, but that it will actually attract more fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Boghead ranter said: The Rock's location is outstanding. The actual stadium, not so much. Though it's the right size for our needs, has to be said. This. But location is a very double-edged sword indeed, as since our move to the Rock the ownership of the club has passed to remote speculators who have mistaken a historic football club for a housing development opportunity. We live in hope that situation can be altered. As regards what we currently have there, what was originally intended was better but at a crucial point in the building timeline SportScotland altered their funding arrangements with the result that IIRC St Mirren benefitted whilst we had our allocation reduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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