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4 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

RIP Finn Døssing.
115 games, 76 goals for Dundee United between December 1964 and October 1967.

United only had 2 league wins and 3 draws when he signed, sent off in his first game against Hearts. He ended up scoring 19 of those goals in 21 games in his first season lifting United to 9th. Used to enjoy going to watch United with their Scandinavians back in the days when it was acceptable to go Dens one week and Tannadice the next. Think all 5 are in this team group, Mogens Berg (back row, far left), Lennart Wing (middle row, far right), Orjan Persson (front row, far left), not 100% sure but think that’s Finn Seemann (front row, 2nd left) and Finn Dossing (front row, centre). 

 

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7 hours ago, Eednud said:

United only had 2 league wins and 3 draws when he signed, sent off in his first game against Hearts. He ended up scoring 19 of those goals in 21 games in his first season lifting United to 9th. Used to enjoy going to watch United with their Scandinavians back in the days when it was acceptable to go Dens one week and Tannadice the next. Think all 5 are in this team group, Mogens Berg (back row, far left), Lennart Wing (middle row, far right), Orjan Persson (front row, far left), not 100% sure but think that’s Finn Seemann (front row, 2nd left) and Finn Dossing (front row, centre). 

 

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Jerry Kerr did very well with his Scandanavian signings, transformed the club.

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United only had 2 league wins and 3 draws when he signed, sent off in his first game against Hearts. He ended up scoring 19 of those goals in 21 games in his first season lifting United to 9th. Used to enjoy going to watch United with their Scandinavians back in the days when it was acceptable to go Dens one week and Tannadice the next. Think all 5 are in this team group, Mogens Berg (back row, far left), Lennart Wing (middle row, far right), Orjan Persson (front row, far left), not 100% sure but think that’s Finn Seemann (front row, 2nd left) and Finn Dossing (front row, centre). 
 
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A very very young Hamish McAlpine in the middle of the back row there
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On 26/06/2022 at 02:26, Eednud said:

United only had 2 league wins and 3 draws when he signed, sent off in his first game against Hearts. He ended up scoring 19 of those goals in 21 games in his first season lifting United to 9th. Used to enjoy going to watch United with their Scandinavians back in the days when it was acceptable to go Dens one week and Tannadice the next. Think all 5 are in this team group, Mogens Berg (back row, far left), Lennart Wing (middle row, far right), Orjan Persson (front row, far left), not 100% sure but think that’s Finn Seemann (front row, 2nd left) and Finn Dossing (front row, centre). 

 

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Was that away kit all black?  

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1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Was that away kit all black?  

Aye, but it wasn't an "away" kit, no such thing back then, it was their change kit (struggling to think who they would have clashed with - Clyde, Stirling Albion?).

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2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Aye, but it wasn't an "away" kit, no such thing back then, it was their change kit (struggling to think who they would have clashed with - Clyde, Stirling Albion?).

Yes, in fact teams tended to wear change colours at home when necessary, up until about the early 80s.

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3 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

Aye, but it wasn't an "away" kit, no such thing back then, it was their change kit (struggling to think who they would have clashed with - Clyde, Stirling Albion?).

Back then also Raith Rovers, Morton, Ayr United and think they used to wear it at home to Celtic. 

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3 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Yes, in fact teams tended to wear change colours at home when necessary, up until about the early 80s.

Change colours at home is still the standard in lots of other team sports. 

It was supposedly based on the fact that the home team would have a spare set of shirts in case there was a clash, while the away team would be unlikely to travel with a second set

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1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said:

Change colours at home is still the standard in lots of other team sports. 

It was supposedly based on the fact that the home team would have a spare set of shirts in case there was a clash, while the away team would be unlikely to travel with a second set

I kind of like the idea in a sort of 'well mannered thing for the hosts to do' type of way.  It was still that way when I started attending.

  I'm actually surprised in this age of marketing, that clubs don't revert to this way of displaying various kits to their home crowds.

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5 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

Aye, but it wasn't an "away" kit, no such thing back then, it was their change kit (struggling to think who they would have clashed with - Clyde, Stirling Albion?).

St. Mirren had an all white shirt for several seasons during the 60s so United would have changed when they played each other at Tannadice....or so you would think!!!

In the 60/61 season they played a Scottish Cup tie at Tannadice. Saints shirt that season was all white but for some reason United didn't change so the Saints kitman made a dash across the road to borrow Dundee's home kit.

That proved no deterrent as Saints won 1-0 thanks to a Rab Stewart goal.

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Incidentally, that Saints win v United was a wee bit of revenge over Neil Mochan who, in the previous season, had scored all 5 goals for Celtic in a 5-2 Scottish Cup 2nd round 2nd replay at Celtic Park after a 1-1 draw at SMP and a 4-4 draw at Celtic Park.

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8 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

St. Mirren had an all white shirt for several seasons during the 60s so United would have changed when they played each other at Tannadice....or so you would think!!!

In the 60/61 season they played a Scottish Cup tie at Tannadice. Saints shirt that season was all white but for some reason United didn't change so the Saints kitman made a dash across the road to borrow Dundee's home kit.

That proved no deterrent as Saints won 1-0 thanks to a Rab Stewart goal.

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In the Scottish Cup back then both sides were supposed to wear change if their was a colour clash. Over the road on the same day Dundee wore all white against Rangers in blue and whiten stripes.  I think there’s the United v St Mirren somewhere in this thread.

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On 15/06/2022 at 19:18, Ivo den Bieman said:

Quite right. Stirling have had the occasional all-red strip (including this season) but their trad colours are red shirts / white sleeves & white shorts.

A quick bit of research shows that they've only worn that combination in about 15 seasons out of 77, so hardly "trad".

All red more or less as often.

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5 hours ago, Eednud said:

I think there’s the United v St Mirren somewhere in this thread.

Found it and Dundee United wore their Arsenal change strip.

 

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18 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

St. Mirren had an all white shirt for several seasons during the 60s so United would have changed when they played each other at Tannadice....or so you would think!!!

In the 60/61 season they played a Scottish Cup tie at Tannadice. Saints shirt that season was all white but for some reason United didn't change so the Saints kitman made a dash across the road to borrow Dundee's home kit.

That proved no deterrent as Saints won 1-0 thanks to a Rab Stewart goal.

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There were two Bobby Campbells on Saints books at one time so match reporters referred to them by hair colour - Bobby "Red" Campbell and Bobby "Black" Campbell.

Looking at the ad in the bottom right of the programme cover was early 60s Dundee a hotbed of Reliant 3 wheelers?

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According to this, Ray Houghton's  ambition was "To do well with Fulham and to play for Scotland."  Seemingly Jack Charlton went to an Oxford game with a view to getting John Aldridge to play for Ireland. Aldridge said he would "and by the way, Ray Houghton, over there, is Irish qualified too through his Granny. Why don't you ask him?"

 

Jack did, and the rest is history..

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Some old Cowdenbeath photos from times gone by.

Legendary Cowden physio Davie Stewart (in post 1930-53) working on Cowden's goalkeeper of the day. Weirdly the composition of this photo really reminds me of the famous Rembrandt painting, The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp, although the Cowden keeper is (presumably) still alive.

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Also a famous miscreant from that era: Jim "Hooky" Leonard, immortalised in Ron Ferguson's books on the club:

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Central Park in 1932

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The Cowden side that finished rock bottom of the old first division in 1971, six points adrift of St. Mirren, and the Pars, who survived on gaol difference that year:

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20 years later, in 1989/90 John Brownlie's team in a remarkably minimalist strip finished midtable, narrowly missed out behind Montrose the following season, and finally went up in 1992. They were a top side full of characters. (TRIANCO are a domestic boiler company who I think still exist). Extended highlights from Killie making heavy weather of Cowden at Rugby Park in May 1990- Killie were promoted that day, and Cowden ended up 7th.

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Finally, one of my favourite Scottish football photos which for me captures much of the spirit of the lower leagues. The Pars visit Central Park during 2015/16 in front of a big crowd. Hope Cowden can turn themselves around and that there'll be one more of these West Fife derbies in future.

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