Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Scottish Cup Final programmes from the early 50s. I used to have the 2 Dons' ones. If you were able to buy them for the opening bid on eBay without getting involved in a bidding war, these would set you back £724.95 plus postage of £42.50, although that might be reduced due to a bulk order. A bit rich for me, I'm afraid. I like the designs of the covers, so much better than the glossy brochures issued nowadays. Celtic won 1-0. Opening bid for this is £149.99 Motherwell were back the following season, and won 4-0. The Dees had the consolation of having won the League Cup earlier in the season, beating Rangers 3-2. The opening bid for this is a cool £174.99 The first of two successive (losing) appearances in the final for the Dons. Rangers won 1-0 in a replay after a 1-1 draw. Don't think there was a programme issued for the replay, the SFA didn't usually issue programmes for semi final and final replays, although they did for the cup final of 1963 (Rangers v Celtic) and the league cup semi final between Morton and Hibs in 1963/64. Opening bid here is £149.99. Celtic do the double, beating the Dons 2-1. Aberdeen had won their semi final with Rangers 6-0, and gave Celtic a helping hand by putting through their own net for the opening goal. However, there were happier times ahead for the Dons, winning the league for the first time the following season, and following that up with the league cup in 1955/56. Bertie Peacock, Jock Stein, Bobby Evans, Charlie Tully, Sean Fallon and Willie Fernie for Celtic, Fred Martin, Archie Glen, Alex Young, Graham Leggat, George Hamilton, Paddy Buckley, Joe O'Neill and Jackie Hather for the Dons. This'll cost you £124.99 Celtic were back the following season but Clyde shocked them winning 1-0, Tommy Ring scoring, after a 1-1 draw. The first game was the first Scottish Cup Final televised live, which wasn't announced before the game. The replay wasn't broadcast live. £124.99 this one is. Edited June 2, 2022 by Jacksgranda Terrible sllepnig 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Do you have photos of the Falkirk 1957 one(s)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Do you have photos of the Falkirk 1957 one(s)? Here. Don't know if there was a programme for the replay. This final was televised too, afaik. Falkirk won 2-1 aet in the replay, after a 1-1 draw in the first match. 160,000 attended the two games. ETA: £74.99 + £8.50 p&p Edited June 2, 2022 by Jacksgranda Update and Grandma 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 The 1955/56 cup final programme, the second of three successive cup final appearances by Celtic, a 3-1 defeat for them here, Hearts' first cup win for 50 years, and their first final appearance in 49. Hearts got to the final without conceding a goal. Celtic were starting to fade away, to become just another team, with only a couple league cup wins (although one was a quite spectacular win!) before lifting the cup in 1964/65. Hearts, on the other hand, were on the rise under the managership of Tommy Walker, and should maybe have won more than they did in the next 7 seasons. £82.00 plus £3.45 postage this would have cost you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Speaking of Tommy Walker (great to see these 50s designs above!), here's his British Forces all-stars team of 1944/45 which ended on the war on a marathon tour of India. Nutmeg magazine wrote about this gruelling tour a while back. Seems to be almost all Scots players with a couple of Welshmen as garnish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Forgotten careers: Neil McBain (1895-1974). McBain begain at Ayr (first picture, taken 1920) before going on to play for Man U, Everton, St. Johnstone and Watford, and seemingly retired from playing in 1931. He had a significant career as a manager with clubs including Watford, Orient, and Estudiantes de la Plata in Argentina (!). Finished at Ayr in 1963. Best remembered as manager of doomed, penniless New Brighton, Merseyside's forgotten fifth league club who were in the Third Division North from 1923-51. During a desperate injury crisis manager McBain had to play himself in the "Rakers" goal in a league fixture at Hartlepool in March 1947 at the age of 51- the oldest player ever toi turn out in a Football League match, and sixteen years after his last appearance for Watford. He was sacked a year later with the Rakers yet again bottom of the league, but to be honest Bill Shankly couldn't have reversed their fortunes. The other photos show him during his career and in pre-season at the Tower Ground, New Brighton's home, in summer '47. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said: Forgotten careers: Neil McBain (1895-1974). McBain begain at Ayr (first picture, taken 1920) before going on to play for Man U, Everton, St. Johnstone and Watford, and seemingly retired from playing in 1931. He had a significant career as a manager with clubs including Watford, Orient, and Estudiantes de la Plata in Argentina (!). Finished at Ayr in 1963. Best remembered as manager of doomed, penniless New Brighton, Merseyside's forgotten fifth league club who were in the Third Division North from 1923-51. During a desperate injury crisis manager McBain had to play himself in the "Rakers" goal in a league fixture at Hartlepool in March 1947 at the age of 51- the oldest player ever toi turn out in a Football League match, and sixteen years after his last appearance for Watford. He was sacked a year later with the Rakers yet again bottom of the league, but to be honest Bill Shankly couldn't have reversed their fortunes. The other photos show him during his career and in pre-season at the Tower Ground, New Brighton's home, in summer '47. New Brighton were replaced by Workington in 1951, who were in turn replaced by Wimbledon in 1977, who in turn became MK Dons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Yup. If that pattern of that luckless league place continues, MK Dons will disappear around 2031/32. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said: Yup. If that pattern of that luckless league place continues, MK Dons will disappear around 2031/32. I don't think too many people would be heartbroken if that happened. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 09:24, Dundee Hibernian said: I mind posting these just over a year ago: Polyester or Terylene efforts, worn in the 'sixties and early 'seventies, often manufactured by tie making companies. My first scarf in 1967 was the same type as the Rangers one, and my second was in 1971 and the same style as the Celtic one there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: The 1955/56 cup final programme Interesting Home Internationals table with all 4 finishing a win, a draw, a loss and 3 points. Goal average wasn’t used so all 4 shared the title. The only time this happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: My first scarf in 1967 was the same type as the Rangers one, and my second was in 1971 and the same style as the Celtic one there. My first - and only - scarf was the same as yours. I don't remember seeing any of the "Celtic" type scarves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Eednud said: Interesting Home Internationals table with all 4 finishing a win, a draw, a loss and 3 points. Goal average wasn’t used so all 4 shared the title. The only time this happened. Saw that, they must have been filling up space, I don't recall seeing the table in other programmes. I suppose it might have depended when the final was played. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Saw that, they must have been filling up space, I don't recall seeing the table in other programmes. I suppose it might have depended when the final was played. The 55/56 Final was the week after the Scotland v England game. Aberdeen’s Graham Leggat put Scotland ahead after 60 mins with future Fulham team mate Johnny Haynes with a last minute equaliser. Attendance 132,779 slightly less than the Cup Final attendance of 132,840. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: My first - and only - scarf was the same as yours. I don't remember seeing any of the "Celtic" type scarves. The Aberdeen “Celtic” type scarf with the frills had the Scottish Cup win of 1970 on it, together with the Drybrough Cup win of 1971. I still have them both. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eednud said: The 55/56 Final was the week after the Scotland v England game. Aberdeen’s Graham Leggat put Scotland ahead after 60 mins with future Fulham team mate Johnny Haynes with a last minute equaliser. Attendance 132,779 slightly less than the Cup Final attendance of 132,840. Absolutely love watching these old games. Just a shame that they camerawork appears to be so shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 06:47, Jacksgranda said: It certainly happened, I can remember reading newspaper reports about those sort of shenanigans, bit like Christmas Club money vanishing. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Fill yer boots here on old cup finals lads: some famous games from long, long ago in here: https://www.britishpathe.com/search/query/Scottish+Cup The Pathé site has some astonishingly random games, such as this cup tie from 1955/56 at Firhill with Brechin City the visitors (Thistle win 3-1). No sound / commentary unfortunately. https://www.britishpathe.com/video/VLVA34CXX4QRFF4TSHO2UP2PLPPKC-SCOTTISH-CUP-SIXTH-ROUND-PARTICK-BEAT-BRECHIN-3-1-THISTLE-PROVE/query/Brechin Not Scottish, but this gives a good flavour of Pathé's longer reports; Gateshead 0 Bolton W. 1 in 1953; lots of local colour, toothless old gimmers, rosettes & rattles, and semi-jaked women in headscarves in the crowd https://www.britishpathe.com/video/6th-round-f-a-cup-gateshead-v-bolton/query/Gateshead+Bolton Leading up to the Matthews final later that year, still worth a watch. Very very slow by today's standards but Matthews & Lofthouse really stand out. Geroge Farm, Scotland keeper in goal for Blackpool whilst Bolton captain Willie Moir was from Aberdeen and an international. Edited June 2, 2022 by Ivo den Bieman 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 10:15, Ivo den Bieman said: Dundee Violet team group from 80 years ago, including David Symon, brother of Scot; a post-war cup-tie at Glenesk Park versus Glenafton Athletic (look at the crowd!!!); Glenesk more recently, with a much more contemporary crowd (around 60 committee, family and last of the diehards) when Glenafton won 2-0 there in 2016. I have a real soft spot for Violet. I sued to watch them a bit when I lived in Dundee; Glenesk, bar the covered enclosure, was then an overgrown ruin covered in foxgloves and debris. It's tidied up quite a bit since. At the end of the 2000s it was like Day of the Triffids standing on the old grassbanks there. Dundee back then had a crowd of around 50-100 or so old guys who would go wherever there was a decent game on without necessarily supporting any one club. It's astonishing to look back at these huge crowds now. I snapped this piece of recycling at Glenesk Park back in 2009... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Yes this must have been shortly after the annual heroic attmept to keep the terracing triffids at bay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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