parsforlife Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 54 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Gayfield in 1950. No enclosures at either end, which were, I think, built later on in the 'fifties. Love that. We see alot of pictures on how grounds were before becoming the 'modern' all seaters. It's nice to see the changes that have occurred at what now would be considered a traditional ground. Personally awaiting a big change over the next 10 years or so, probably as we move toward 'safe' standing. There has been significant generational changes to ground every 30-40 years, and there is alot of grounds unchanged since the mid-90s post taylor report. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Love St, probably the 1940s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 41 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Brockville had sported illumination since 1953 Think I've posted this, from 1953, previously. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: One of the interesting things featured in old newspapers is the publishing of gate reciepts. When was this practice phased out? Don't actually know, but maybe when (some) clubs started keeping back cash to avoid taxation, and more simply to hide the money generally. Certainly well before the newspapers stopped publishing the home town of referees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 56 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: One of the interesting things featured in old newspapers is the publishing of gate reciepts. When was this practice phased out? 17 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Don't actually know, but maybe when (some) clubs started keeping back cash to avoid taxation, and more simply to hide the money generally. Certainly well before the newspapers stopped publishing the home town of referees. I'd have speculated 1957 (when entertainment tax abolished) or 1961 (SFL started gathering attendances centrally). But that article's 1961. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Was that east enclosure roof made of lead slabs?! Must have at least 10 supporting columns yet it looks barely 20yds wide. Not so much supporting columns, more anchors to stop the roof being blown off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 One of the interesting things featured in old newspapers is the publishing of gate reciepts. When was this practice phased out?It still happens in Italy. Given the absolute state of football finance in that country its probably a good sign that we don't have to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Arabdownunder said: Not so much supporting columns, more anchors to stop the roof being blown off It's Forfar who had about 3 stands blown down in their history. I don't think I've seen a picture of any of them so if some Loons can supply an image it would be appreciated. Here's an old card issued by the Sunday Post when Forfar played in green (1955-67): 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Bartender Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 17 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Talking of floodlights this was 60yrs today. Brockville had sported illumination since 1953 but chose weekday afternoon v Rangers: Utterly fantastic browse through the back pages of history. I genuinely never knew that Millwall were "Athletic". And it looks like Hartlepool had an "s" to help anchor them at the bottom of LD IV. Typo, nae doot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, House Bartender said: Utterly fantastic browse through the back pages of history. I genuinely never knew that Millwall were "Athletic". And it looks like Hartlepool had an "s" to help anchor them at the bottom of LD IV. Typo, nae doot. No, I think they were Hartlepools (United) in those days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 48 minutes ago, House Bartender said: Utterly fantastic browse through the back pages of history. I genuinely never knew that Millwall were "Athletic". And it looks like Hartlepool had an "s" to help anchor them at the bottom of LD IV. Typo, nae doot. Millwall hadn't been 'Millwall Athletic' for over 40 years by 1961. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Bartender Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Millwall hadn't been 'Millwall Athletic' for over 40 years by 1961. So I now see, having bothered to look it up. (Thanks). Must be that the Evening Times typesetters had never updated the title in the league tables. I note that they were originally Millwall Rovers too, but this is not Scottish Football, so apologies all round for bring it up in this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: No, I think they were Hartlepools (United) in those days. I'm sure it was because there were two Hartlepool's, West Hartlepool and Hartlepool, so the club was the technically correct (the) Hartlepools United for a number of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Charles Stiles said: I'm sure it was because there were two Hartlepool's, West Hartlepool and Hartlepool, so the club was the technically correct (the) Hartlepools United for a number of years. From Wikipedia - "They were founded in 1908 as Hartlepools United Football Athletic Company. West Hartlepool won the FA Amateur Cup in 1905 and after the club was dissolved in 1910 its assets and liabilities were subsequently taken over by Hartlepools United, who were then playing in the North Eastern League. Hartlepools United were elected into the Football League in 1921 and would spend the next 37 years in the Third Division North, at which point they were placed into the Fourth Division. In 1968, the s and the United of the club's name was removed due to the merger of West Hartlepool with the town of Hartlepool and the village of Hart - forming the new borough of Hartlepool. The club won promotion in 1967–68 for the first time, though were relegated out of the Third Division the following season. In 1977, the United was added back to the team's name." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 48 minutes ago, House Bartender said: So I now see, having bothered to look it up. (Thanks). Must be that the Evening Times typesetters had never updated the title in the league tables. I note that they were originally Millwall Rovers too, but this is not Scottish Football, so apologies all round for bring it up in this thread. This is P&B - never apologise... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, House Bartender said: So I now see, having bothered to look it up. (Thanks). Must be that the Evening Times typesetters had never updated the title in the league tables. I note that they were originally Millwall Rovers too, but this is not Scottish Football, so apologies all round for bring it up in this thread. They were formed by Scottish dock workers...I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: They were formed by Scottish dock workers...I think. Yes, and that's why they play in dark blue with a lion rampant badge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Yes, and that's why they play in dark blue with a lion rampant badge. This is their badge - This is a lion rampant - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: This is their badge - This is a lion rampant - Aye ok Lord Lyon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: They were formed by Scottish dock workers...I think. 1 hour ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Yes, and that's why they play in dark blue with a lion rampant badge. The official histories of the club, and the Club Website states workers from a jam factory formed the club. Millwall Rovers were formed in the summer of 1885 by workers at Morton's Jam Factory on the Isle of Dogs.The majority of the workers at the factory were of Scottish extraction and consequently blue and white became the club's colours. https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2016/may/in-the-beginning/ I recall watching a live FA Cup tie involving Millwall, where it was stated they played in dark blue as they adopted Dundee's jerseys. They only flaw in that argument is that Dundee were not formed for another 8 years after Millwall Rovers. In any case, there wasn't a 'Morton's Jam Factory' on the Isle of Dogs: the factory owned by Morton's canned a variety of foodstuffs, as jam making was generally a seasonal form of employment, done by women, with the jam stored in ceramic containers. The Morton's male workforce were mainly tinsmiths, and probably weren't in the main Scottish in any case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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