Jump to content

A Photographic History Of Scottish Football


Recommended Posts

Just now, Sergeant Wilson said:

I'd assumed it was Eire and that the best players would be playing for their clubs, weakening the League side. Was it Northern Ireland?

The Irish League is Northern Ireland, the Free State league is the League of Ireland.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said:

I just looked up this game... the last home Scottish League international. Played on Wednesday 1st November 1978, it ended 1-1 in front of 4,427 at Fir Park; and was first time the Irish League had ever avoided defeat on Scottish soil. Held the same night as Rangers, Aberdeen, Hibs and St Mirren played international ties a fairly strong squad was nevertheless fielded but could only rescue a draw courtesy Willie Pettigrew's late equaliser... among those involved were full internationals Rough, Narey, Burns, Hegarty, Bannon, Pettigrew, and unused sub Murdo Macleod.

Nov-78-SCOTTISH-LEAGUE-v-IRISH-LEAGUE.jp     d8901945be98a0bcdf07ca216985ac58

Alan Rough
David Narey
Tommy Burns
Gregor Stevens
Paul Hegarty
Bobby Thomson
Bobby Houston
Eamonn Bannon
Willie Pettigrew
Colin McAdam (sub Doug Somner)
Peter Marinello

Unused subs
Hamish McAlpine, Neil Orr, Murdo Macleod, Ian Redford


1978110105.jpg

1978110104.jpg

1978110103.jpg

Incidentally it appears "man of vision" Roger Hynd never managed again... except for 6 games as St Johnstone caretaker in 1980!

Looks like it was Tom and not Colin McAdam who played that night. Murdo MacLeod was a Sons player at the time, signing for Celtic a day or two later.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

They should join up.

There have been attempts.

ETA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All–Ireland_League_(association_football)#:~:text=The All–Ireland League was a name given to,League of Ireland and the Irish Football League.

Edited by Jacksgranda
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

To be fair, Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers were playing as well, so the Ireland team must've been under strength.

 

1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said:

And this would affect the Irish League how?


Correct, as noted Irish League = Northern Ireland and League of Ireland = Eire.

Match Programmes Other – The Scotland Epistles Football Magazine     602161c5762f644d31813b33267943f2

Sep-65-SCOTTISH-LEAGUE-v-IRISH-LEAGUE.jp     s-l300.jpg

59 minutes ago, lionel wickson said:

Looks like it was Tom and not Colin McAdam who played that night. Murdo MacLeod was a Sons player at the time, signing for Celtic a day or two later.

Having checked the programme you're correct it was Tom McAdam of Celtic. Interestingly enough Jock Stein managed the Scottish League, assisted by Motherwell trainer Willie McKenzie.

Edited by HibeeJibee
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

 


Correct, as noted Irish League = Northern Ireland and League of Ireland = Eire.

Match Programmes Other – The Scotland Epistles Football Magazine     602161c5762f644d31813b33267943f2

Sep-65-SCOTTISH-LEAGUE-v-IRISH-LEAGUE.jp     s-l300.jpg

Having checked the programme you're correct it was Tom McAdam of Celtic. Interestingly enough Jock Stein managed the Scottish League, assisted by Motherwell trainer Willie McKenzie.

Any reason why the games against the Irish League were played at Ibrox, and one against the League of Ireland at Celtic Park? :whistle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

Any reason why the games against the Irish League were played at Ibrox, and one against the League of Ireland at Celtic Park? :whistle

I'm sure it was simply coincidence... 🤨!

There were actually 2 v League of Ireland at Ibrox:

bEOVyux-BSMiBBFtPC985nG8OsfGjPrcXy-I7UHs     s-l300.jpg

From when series against the League of Ireland got added to the schedule in 1947 it won't come as a shock to us 6 games were played at Parkhead, against just 2 at Ibrox and 2 at Shawfield - including that illustrated earlier: actually delayed 24hr by freezing fog.

Meanwhile against the Irish League we find 9 at Ibrox, against just 1 at Parkhead (plus 1 at Fir Park trying to revive series after 9yrs lapse).

796083972_a14Jan1948SLvIL.thumb.jpg.000a0d4c644eff034b6a9acf29a8fdd1.jpg

Edited by HibeeJibee
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Irish League lost 2-1 to Hibs in a friendly at Easter Road in March 1989.

I was there with 3000 other idiots who had nothing better to do 

Andy Goram was on international duty so Hibs borrowed Jim McQueen from Meadowbank Thistle for the match and George O'Boyle was in the Irish League select 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

45 minutes ago, tamthebam said:

The Irish League lost 2-1 to Hibs in a friendly at Easter Road in March 1989.

I was there with 3000 other idiots who had nothing better to do 

Andy Goram was on international duty so Hibs borrowed Jim McQueen from Meadowbank Thistle for the match and George O'Boyle was in the Irish League select 

That was a sort of trial/warm-up before they toured North America in the closed-season. Monday of the international break where Mo Johnstone scored twice to beat France.

896105165_HibsvIL.thumb.jpg.6947845bf3341469e927ab1c17f91562.jpg


Couple of years after they also played Kilmarnock at Rugby Park as part of the Irish League's centenary celebrations in 1990-91... it came after games with Manchester United and the Football League both at Windsor Park... crowd was around 4,000 seemingly. At stake the "Wilkinson Sword Trophy": hosts won 2-1.

No idea why an away game v Kilmarnock was desired: they were only mid-table in SFL1 (newly-promoted from SFL2). Even the match programme seems entirely silent on that front. Motherwell beat Celtic same night in Scottish Cup SF replay to reach "the family final".

75319604_KilmarnockvIL.thumb.jpg.bfe026ce20e067d65aaf58387583cea2.jpg

Edited by HibeeJibee
Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, lionel wickson said:

Looks like it was Tom and not Colin McAdam who played that night. Murdo MacLeod was a Sons player at the time, signing for Celtic a day or two later.

But there is MacLeod of Dumbarton playing for Scotland's Youths vs Finland's Youths on the same night at Love Street according to that newspaper image.

Capture.JPG.076634b78e3c0b44501c7d4971a246d3.JPG

 

Edited by Bogbrush1903
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Drew Brees said:

Scotland win the Rous Cup with a 1-0 victory against England at Hampden in 1985. Richard Gough and Roy Aitken celebrate Gough's 69th minute winner.

61C7B42C-069B-4007-B2B8-DDC074056651.jpeg

A game that I remember for the racist abuse, sang loud and clear (I think it was to the tune of a Boney M song)by a large section of the home crowd and heard on TV, to the English right-back Viv Anderson.

Embarrassing and shameful.

Edited by Bogbrush1903
Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

A game that I remember for the racist abuse, sang loud and clear (I think it was to the tune of a Boney M song)by a large section of the home crowd and heard on TV, to the English right-back Viv Anderson.

Embarrassing and shameful.

I was in the Rangers end and John Barnes was also getting it thick, straightforward monkey chants though. Absolutely disgusting and fortunately mostly consigned to the dustbin of history. 

 

 

Edited by Lurkst
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 26/10/2021 at 13:17, HibeeJibee said:

Remember that SFA didn't bother entering Euro 60 or Euro 64 qualifying - on latter occasion only ourselves, Cyprus and Finland stayed out

West Germany didn't enter either, although East Germany did 🤷‍♂️

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Lurkst said:

West Germany didn't enter either, although East Germany did 🤷‍♂️

Fair point. I'm not sure whether they could both enter? They weren't both allowed to participate in World Cup qualifying until 1962, and in Olympic qualifying until 1968... before that they were required to playoff with each other (at first behind closed doors at semi-secret venues) with whoever won then entering qualifying as 'Germany'.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Fair point. I'm not sure whether they could both enter? They weren't both allowed to participate in World Cup qualifying until 1962, and in Olympic qualifying until 1968... before that they were required to playoff with each other (at first behind closed doors at semi-secret venues) with whoever won then entering qualifying as 'Germany'.

That might explain it.

I was surprised to read recently East Germany never fully entered the Olympics til the 1970s, there was a combined German Olympic team even after the Berlin Wall went up!

 

Anyway, not much to do with Scottish football, so here's the only image I can find of Kilmarnock playing in East Germany, versus Lokomotive Leipzig in 1967...

559ef60bb988d.jpg

Leipzig has defeated Eusebio's Benfica in the previous round, but couldn't overcome the mighty Killie in the quarters.

In fact they had a 0% success rate against Scottish clubs, being knocked out by Hibs two seasons later and Hearts in 1976.

 

Edited by Lurkst
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...