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2 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

 

I was reading a paper from the day after the 2nd replay and it mentioned that there was a murder on a Glasgow to London train on the Friday before the 1979 match with the Auld Enemy at Wembley on the Saturday. A 20 year old from Cumnock was killed on an overcrowded BR football special...Any recollection of a febrile atmosphere on the way down to London in 79? Has there been a P&B thread on Auld Enemy recollections? I think that would be great thread...

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I've no recollection of a murder, but was on an overnight train which departed from the east. It was packed when I alighted, and after a pile of drink I managed to fall asleep in the luggage rack. Mind little about the game, apart from Clemence playing well, and spent the Saturday and Sunday nights somewhere in Essex.

On the early afternoon return journey quite a few Scotland fans looked like they were on a holocaust journey, some missing basic items of clothes such as shoes. Quite a few claimed to have been in court that morning, in an effort to cadge fags and booze.

 

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3 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

 

I was reading a paper from the day after the 2nd replay and it mentioned that there was a murder on a Glasgow to London train on the Friday before the 1979 match with the Auld Enemy at Wembley on the Saturday. A 20 year old from Cumnock was killed on an overcrowded BR football special...Any recollection of a febrile atmosphere on the way down to London in 79? Has there been a P&B thread on Auld Enemy recollections? I think that would be great thread...

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'79 was my first visit to Wembley, went with my old man. He vowed never to go back after witnessing quite a few unsavoury incidents involving Scotland fans, typically exposing themselves to females. That was bad enough but when they had bairns with them in the car then that was a step too far for him. For all the drunkeness, and I was pished all weekend, I never saw much trouble. '83 however was an entirely different story

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3 hours ago, ScottyDee1893 said:

'83 however was an entirely different story

Don't keep us in suspense then Mr Dee, give us some tales from 83 please...83 was played in midweek in attempt to ward off Scottish hordes descending on London

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6 hours ago, Raidernation said:

“.......through Kennedy’s legs!!”

Emulated by Clemence the following year.

Stewart Kennedy looked like one of the transition phases of Lon Chaney Jr going from human to werewolf.

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4 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

I've no recollection of a murder, but was on an overnight train which departed from the east. It was packed when I alighted, and after a pile of drink I managed to fall asleep in the luggage rack. Mind little about the game, apart from Clemence playing well, and spent the Saturday and Sunday nights somewhere in Essex.

On the early afternoon return journey quite a few Scotland fans looked like they were on a holocaust journey, some missing basic items of clothes such as shoes. Quite a few claimed to have been in court that morning, in an effort to cadge fags and booze.

Meanwhile, up in Scotland on Saturday May 26th 1979, Loch Lomond was hosting Scotland's young punks...

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10 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Meanwhile, up in Scotland on Saturday May 26th 1979, Loch Lomond was hosting Scotland's young punks...

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Going (staying?) off topic, I've seen most of these bands apart from Dave Edmunds Rockpile, especially Dr Feelgood, well into double figures, and the Average White Band, them mostly in their earlier years. Both bands still going, although the Feelgoods have had a completely different lineup these days.

Reflecting on today's music, that was a great weekend bill, and in many ways this thread is on a similar vein, reminiscing on what some may see as better times for Scottish football. 

Getting old right enough, but the alternative is death. ☠️

 

 

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View from the North Stand of the 1955 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Clyde. Looked like a great vantage point although anecdotal evidence I've heard states that it was a pish stained coup of a place...

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14 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

I've seen most of these bands apart from Dave Edmunds Rockpile, especially Dr Feelgood, well into double figures

Unfortunately, I only saw Dr Feelgood the once, at the Renfrew Ferry, early 90's I think - Lee Brilleaux was just awesome, sadly he passed away not that long after.  Some band ....... the business.  RIP Lee.

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18 minutes ago, Lurkst said:

View from the North Stand of the 1955 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Clyde. Looked like a great vantage point although anecdotal evidence I've heard states that it was a pish stained coup of a place...

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I can indeed confirm that it was a pish stained coup of a place - used to go quite a lot in the 70s/80s before reconstruction.  Used to wear the worst clothes/shoes I owned.  Was always some guy re-filling his lager can behind you when a goal was scored ....... you can imagine the rest.  Also can never forget the 1976 European Cup Final (Bayern v St Etienne) and getting through the Mt Florida end turnstiles along with loads of female St Etienne fans to be faced with the sight of hundreds of guys pissing on the walls cos the toilets were jammed full - can still remember the horror on the faces of those French fans - they clearly thought they had travelled back in time a couple of centuries.  Happy days!

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7 hours ago, Otis Blue said:

I can indeed confirm that it was a pish stained coup of a place - used to go quite a lot in the 70s/80s before reconstruction.  Used to wear the worst clothes/shoes I owned.  Was always some guy re-filling his lager can behind you when a goal was scored ....... you can imagine the rest.  Also can never forget the 1976 European Cup Final (Bayern v St Etienne) and getting through the Mt Florida end turnstiles along with loads of female St Etienne fans to be faced with the sight of hundreds of guys pissing on the walls cos the toilets were jammed full - can still remember the horror on the faces of those French fans - they clearly thought they had travelled back in time a couple of centuries.  Happy days!

Great anecdote but somehow I don't think you'll be invited to appear on one of those "wasn't football better in the old days" shows...

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2 minutes ago, tamthebam said:

Great anecdote but somehow I don't think you'll be invited to appear on one of those "wasn't football better in the old days" shows...

Ha ha!  Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the big games at the time - and it was what we were used to, it was "of its time" - there weren't any fancy stadiums in Scotland then.  It wasn't what the French mademoiselles were used to though that's for sure.

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Just now, Otis Blue said:

Ha ha!  Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the big games at the time - and it was what we were used to, it was "of its time" - there weren't any fancy stadiums in Scotland then.  It wasn't what the French mademoiselles were used to though that's for sure.

The most important question is, of course, were they wids?!

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6 minutes ago, tamthebam said:

The most important question is, of course, were they wids?!

You've got me there Tam ...... I'm far too old to understand this this stuff ........ but if it means were they decent, aye they definitely were!  They were French.

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As I remember it, the North Stand was suspended above the terracing, and when the toilets overflowed, the pish just dripped down. The terracing had its own toilets at the back, but you had to go under the drips to get there.

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The overnight London train used to be wild, it seemed everyone got on drunk with a huge carry out and sometimes tempers could get a wee bit out of hand. Used to arrive at Euston very rough.

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I can indeed confirm that it was a pish stained coup of a place - used to go quite a lot in the 70s/80s before reconstruction.  Used to wear the worst clothes/shoes I owned.  Was always some guy re-filling his lager can behind you when a goal was scored ....... you can imagine the rest.  Also can never forget the 1976 European Cup Final (Bayern v St Etienne) and getting through the Mt Florida end turnstiles along with loads of female St Etienne fans to be faced with the sight of hundreds of guys pissing on the walls cos the toilets were jammed full - can still remember the horror on the faces of those French fans - they clearly thought they had travelled back in time a couple of centuries.  Happy days!
Nowhere near as bad but if you go to France now you can still get pissoir style toilets and the hole in the ground squat types which had the female members of my family thinking they had gone back in time. I've not been to St. Etienne though.
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4 hours ago, BillyAnchor said:

The overnight London train used to be wild, it seemed everyone got on drunk with a huge carry out and sometimes tempers could get a wee bit out of hand. Used to arrive at Euston very rough.

Woah yeah, have seen boys coming off it, six or seven in morning barely able to walk. And there was usually a bus/tube strike.

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9 hours ago, johan scott said:

Woah yeah, have seen boys coming off it, six or seven in morning barely able to walk. And there was usually a bus/tube strike.

Can't think why drivers might have wanted to strike on such a weekend?

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13 hours ago, BillyAnchor said:

The overnight London train used to be wild, it seemed everyone got on drunk with a huge carry out and sometimes tempers could get a wee bit out of hand. Used to arrive at Euston very rough.

I was at Larbert station in 1973 when the train started moving with the Mail ramp still down, apparently someone had waved the light signal to the driver. There were a few hurt, I know one guy who broke his wrist. I remember his ticket being passed on to sell at Wembley.

Being quite young it was all a bit frightening - a bit like the game.

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On 24/04/2021 at 11:01, Otis Blue said:

I can indeed confirm that it was a pish stained coup of a place - used to go quite a lot in the 70s/80s before reconstruction.  Used to wear the worst clothes/shoes I owned.  Was always some guy re-filling his lager can behind you when a goal was scored ....... you can imagine the rest.  Also can never forget the 1976 European Cup Final (Bayern v St Etienne) and getting through the Mt Florida end turnstiles along with loads of female St Etienne fans to be faced with the sight of hundreds of guys pissing on the walls cos the toilets were jammed full - can still remember the horror on the faces of those French fans - they clearly thought they had travelled back in time a couple of centuries.  Happy days!

Given what public toilets were like in France in the seventies, I’m not so sure the French fans would have given that a second look.

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