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On 16/01/2018 at 23:16, Eednud said:

It used to be the home team that changed kit in League games when there was a colour/kit clash and both sides in Scottish Cup ties. Not sure when things changed.

In the FA Cup, both teams changed in the event of a colour clash, until 1972.  Which was a bit daft, as two teams playing in blue or red might both have a change kit in white.  So there were lots of impromptu third kits.

 

Home team changed in English league matches until 1921.

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45 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

Bobby Lennox heads home a goal for Celtic in a 3-2 Scottish Cup win v Kilmarnock at Celtic Park in the Shamrock away kit, back in the days when the home side changed kits in instances of a clash, although Kilmarnock appear to be wearing an all blue kit here?

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Interesting that there are no numbers on the back of the Celtic shirts.  I had read somewhere that the Celtic directors eschewed shirt numbers for decades (until forced to relent) to avoid disrupting the integrity of the hoops.   But those are plain shirts...

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On 30/05/2020 at 08:59, Flybhoy said:

Paul Wilson, Harry Hood, Kenny Dalglish and Ronnie Galvin are amongst the Celtic players pictured going out of the 1976 Cup winners cup to those European giants from East Germany, the famous Sashenring Zwikau.

 

Sachsenring Zwickau (Sachsenring = Saxony circuit, still used as a motor racing venue).

 

They were the first East German champions.  Had to beat Friedrichstadt of Dresden to take the title.  The Dresdeners were considered a bit too bourgeois so the refereeing was somewhat questionable.  E.g. Friedrichstadt being down to 8 men by the end through injury and the referee refused to allow substitutions (which were permitted at the time).   Most of the Friedrichstadt players (including Helmut Schön) legged it to West Berlin and the Commies disbanded the club for insolence.

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53 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

For United, 4 is Iain Phillip, and the goalkeeper is Andy Graham, who didn't get many opportunities at Tannadice as he was understudy to Hamish McAlpine.

 

Dons players are Drew Jarvie, Mark McGhee and Stevie Archibald. This was a midweek game as I recall, decent crowd and a great free kick from Strachan for the Dons goal. United equalised via either Kirky from a Holt cross or vice versa. It was a true game of two halves, Dons dominated in the first period and United the second.

 

EDIT: looked up that season to check, this was the second last game as Aberdeen went for the title, which, of course, they won. 

John McMaster on the wing there between Narey and Archibald?

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21 minutes ago, bluearmyfaction said:

Interesting that there are no numbers on the back of the Celtic shirts.  I had read somewhere that the Celtic directors eschewed shirt numbers for decades (until forced to relent) to avoid disrupting the integrity of the hoops.   But those are plain shirts...

Think they had to start putting numbers on shirts for European games but not sure when, maybe the 70's.

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3 hours ago, killiejim said:

A claim was made that after the teams adopted their traditional colours neither Rangers nor Celtic had ever played in a change strip in a game against each other
 

I'm maybe being even thicker than usual but if by traditional colours you mean Rangers' blue top and Celtic's green and white hoops...why would either of them ever need to play in a change strip? Even if the referee's watching on a black and white telly, it would still be clear who was who. Wouldn't it?

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7 hours ago, Shotgun said:

I'm maybe being even thicker than usual but if by traditional colours you mean Rangers' blue top and Celtic's green and white hoops...why would either of them ever need to play in a change strip? Even if the referee's watching on a black and white telly, it would still be clear who was who. Wouldn't it?

If they ever played each other in Europe, their shorts would clash so someone would have to change. Which would be stupid. 

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50 minutes ago, tamba_trio said:

If they ever played each other in Europe, their shorts would clash so someone would have to change. Which would be stupid. 

If that was the case Rangers could weal blue shorts with white or blue socks, as seen a couple of times last season. It'd save having to play in an away kit.

 

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I'm maybe being even thicker than usual but if by traditional colours you mean Rangers' blue top and Celtic's green and white hoops...why would either of them ever need to play in a change strip? Even if the referee's watching on a black and white telly, it would still be clear who was who. Wouldn't it?
Of course there is no colour clash but that wasn't the point. In these days of teams having 3 strips there are frequent changes for contractual reasons where no colour clash exists. For example I've seen Killie play loads of games where there is no clash yet one or both teams changes. Rangers and Celtic themselves frequently play in a change strip where there is no clash just not against each other. Every team does but this one fixture apparently is inviolable in terms of change.

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Unnecessary use of a change strip rips ma knitting. A couple of year ago St.Mirren who at the time had basically white tops and black shorts played Hibs, green tops white shorts. Inexplicably Saints switched to red tops. 
Ehhh hello people, don’t you know that about 10% of guys have a least a bit of red/green colour blindness. 
So it’s not just me, statistically a couple of the players would have an issue distinguishing a teammate from an opponent and It was clear from the ref’s decision making that he was one of the one in ten. 

So if you are reading this, strip decision making guy - get your brain in gear and get it sorted. 

To put this in a contemporary perspective, I find your decision making offensive!


 

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On 01/07/2020 at 13:30, Dundee Hibernian said:

Think I've maybe posted this before, the Dons,1965-66.

 

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Brilliant strip ...👏👏👏

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Edinburgh City launched a "heritage" kit last season (which I quite like) but our normal home colours are white and black and away colours yellow and black.

Here are City at home wearing the black and red 3rd kit (which they did for a few games). I think that's Elgin wearing their home kit just to confuse things. 

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3 hours ago, Wee Jock Poopong McPlop said:

Unnecessary use of a change strip rips ma knitting. A couple of year ago St.Mirren who at the time had basically white tops and black shorts played Hibs, green tops white shorts. Inexplicably Saints switched to red tops. 
Ehhh hello people, don’t you know that about 10% of guys have a least a bit of red/green colour blindness. 
So it’s not just me, statistically a couple of the players would have an issue distinguishing a teammate from an opponent and It was clear from the ref’s decision making that he was one of the one in ten. 

So if you are reading this, strip decision making guy - get your brain in gear and get it sorted. 

To put this in a contemporary perspective, I find your decision making offensive!


 

I have a big issue with red and black kits clashing for some reason. I struggle to differentiate from a distance which was a pain in the arse at the 2000 LC Semi when United rocked up in their black away kit. Dons/Hibs had a few games that I've struggled with as well.

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19 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Bobby Lennox heads home a goal for Celtic in a 3-2 Scottish Cup win v Kilmarnock at Celtic Park in the Shamrock away kit, back in the days when the home side changed kits in instances of a clash, although Kilmarnock appear to be wearing an all blue kit here?

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Is the Celtic player in the middle of the picture wearing a bucket hat?

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21 hours ago, RedEd said:

As mentioned above it's Drew Jarvie. I don't think Drew Busby ever played for Aberdeen football.

FTFY

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Brilliant strip ...

Indeed.
The club shop should be selling this, and a heritage black and gold top so Jacksgranda can reminisce properly

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6 minutes ago, Raidernation said:


Indeed.
The club shop should be selling this, and a heritage black and gold top so Jacksgranda can reminisce properly

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I do remember,as a former junior club secretary, having a disagreement with the odd referee who wanted the shorts changed as both teams had same colour of shorts. Socks I get - no problem with that and on occasion the socks have been replaced, but shorts? I did point out to the said referee that should he make grade one, would he be telling either of the ugly sisters that one of them had to change? or Hertz or Hibs? Curiously he backed away and said shorts were as laid out in the dressing room prior to inspection.

It did remind me that when it comes to the laws of the game, the match referee is in fact God  (and some of them actually believe the hype.....).

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4 hours ago, G51 Red said:

Brilliant strip ...👏👏👏

That is the weirdest photo I have ever seen! Ernie Winchester, Dave Smith, Tommy McMillan, Bobby Clark, ?, Jens Petersen, Billy Little, Harry Melrose, Ally Shewan, Jorgen Ravn  and Jimmy Wilson.

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2 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

That is the weirdest photo I have ever seen! Ernie Winchester, Dave Smith, Tommy McMillan, Bobby Clark, ?, Jens Petersen, Billy Little, Harry Melrose, Ally Shewan, Jorgen Ravn  and Jimmy Wilson.

John McCormick

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