Monkey Tennis Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Aye. It was noted in the documentary that they never bothered to scout them or Iran. Below is particularly telling (taken from a Telegraph article); How wide of the mark this assumption proved to be was signalled in a contemporary interview with MacLeod when he was asked why he had not personally watched any of Scotland’s group opponents, Peru, Iran or the Netherlands. The manager replied: “Basically, what I’ve decided to do is try and win the World Cup by preparing my own team to perfection.” The absence of awareness – or even interest – in opposition menace was flagged when the Scots’ goalkeeper, Alan Rough, asked MacLeod who took Peru’s free-kicks. “I’ve not noticed anybody,” was the response. This was ignorance at its most wilful and exposed the Scots to Teofilo Cubillas, the set-piece specialist of Peru's 1970 World Cup quarter-finalists and 1975 Copa America winners. Rough should have saved that free kick and he should also have saved the second Dutch goal. He didn't cover himself in glory for Iran's either. McLeod should probably have picked Jim Blyth ahead of him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Tommy Coyne scores a hat trick in Celtic's 3-1 win over Hearts at Tynecastle on the opening day of 1989/90 season, Dariusz Dzekianowski who, aside from his four goal haul against Partizan Belgrade scored more often at Victorias than on the pitch during his spell in Glasgow, congraulates Coyne after his second goal while Alan McLaren and Henry Smith look on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 16 hours ago, Eednud said: Here you go. Given there is snow behind the goals this could be the New Years day Aberdeen v Dundee game from 1963. Looking through "They Wore The Dark Blue" makes me sure it is. That's Ian Ure challenging and Bert Slater in goal and think the other Dundee player is George Ryden with the great Charlie Cooke, a Dundee player the following season. to his right. Finished 1-0 Aberdeen (Winchester) in front of 15,000 fans. Dons no. 11 is Lewis Thom according to the line-up on AFC Heritage site, he also followed the road and the miles the next season but to United. No idea who the player beside Ian Ure is. Happy New Year. That’s more like it, and a brilliant photo into the bargain. Looking at the team sheet, and my knowledge of the players at that time, I reckon that the player challenging Ian Ure must be either Cummings or Allan. Cheers min! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Well we'd qualified by beating the European ones.^^^hiya AllyWe can beat anyone in a one off game. We’ll never ever win a tournament even with colossi like Fanny McGrain and Asa Fucking Hartford. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Daydream said: ^^^hiya Ally We can beat anyone in a one off game. We’ll never ever win a tournament even with colossi like Fanny McGrain and Asa Fucking Hartford. And yet it was unthinkable that we could envisage beating the South American champions in a one off game? I think McGrain missed the tournament due to injury, didn't he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The official FIFA World Rankings didn't exist in 1978, but according to the Elo rankings we were 11th in the world and Peru were 20th going into the tournament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 And yet it was unthinkable that we could envisage beating the South American champions in a one off game? I think McGrain missed the tournament due to injury, didn't he?Yes I believe it is rather unthinkable. We can beat anyone at Hampden, a lot less likely in a far away continent. With hindsight the ‘78 WC went down exactly as it should, right in line with ‘74 and ‘82. Shambolic shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Daydream said: Yes I believe it is rather unthinkable. We can beat anyone at Hampden, a lot less likely in a far away continent. With hindsight the ‘78 WC went down exactly as it should, right in line with ‘74 and ‘82. Shambolic shite. We beat the Dutch in quite a faraway continent. 1974 wasn't shambolic. Edited January 1, 2019 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Too little too late. Same old. 1974 was a failure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Daydream said: Too little too late. Same old. 1974 was a failure. Are you a bit drunk? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: The official FIFA World Rankings didn't exist in 1978, but according to the Elo rankings we were 11th in the world and Peru were 20th going into the tournament. The thing about the Peru game that everyone seems to forget, is that because of Willie Johnston’s drug test failure, even if Scotland had won 6.0, we would have had the three points taken away from us anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, kingjoey said: The thing about the Peru game that everyone seems to forget, is that because of Willie Johnston’s drug test failure, even if Scotland had won 6.0, we would have had the three points taken away from us anyway. Two points, but yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Two points, but yes. Oops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, kingjoey said: The thing about the Peru game that everyone seems to forget, is that because of Willie Johnston’s drug test failure, even if Scotland had won 6.0, we would have had the three points taken away from us anyway. 3 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Two points, but yes. That would be very Scottish - winning 2 points but getting 3 deducted... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 There is a long standing rumour that Derek Johnstone's lack of game time was due to him meeting the wife of the owner of the Grill bar at an outing to Scone Races and not getting back to the team hotel that night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Chief Toffee Teeth Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Didn't Scotland not bother scouting Peru? Our attitude seemed to just be arrogance, assuming that we were through before we had kicked a ball. We cuffed a Peru team with the same core players at Hampden 2-0 ( I was there )in a friendly six years previously. Dennis Law's Scotland comeback game - yes, he scored. The first goal, from John O'Hare, followed that unusual fitba event , an indirect free kick inside the penalty box.I digress..... they were not an unknown quantity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, kingjoey said: The thing about the Peru game that everyone seems to forget, is that because of Willie Johnston’s drug test failure, even if Scotland had won 6.0, we would have had the three points taken away from us anyway. I'm not sure this would have been the case - teams don't typically get punished for a single player failing a drugs test. Argentina didn't lose the points from the Greece game when Maradona was sent home in 1994 and Russia's play-off win against Wales for Euro 2004 wasn't overturned because the guy failed a test. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Was Johnston the first ever drugs ban in international football? When did they start testing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: I'm not sure this would have been the case - teams don't typically get punished for a single player failing a drugs test. Argentina didn't lose the points from the Greece game when Maradona was sent home in 1994 and Russia's play-off win against Wales for Euro 2004 wasn't overturned because the guy failed a test. Yes, I suppose so - never thought of it like that before. That Argentina result (complete with brilliant Maradona goal and demented celebration) did stand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 We cuffed a Peru team with the same core players at Hampden 2-0 ( I was there )in a friendly six years previously. Dennis Law's Scotland comeback game - yes, he scored. The first goal, from John O'Hare, followed that unusual fitba event , an indirect free kick inside the penalty box.I digress..... they were not an unknown quantity. I have never heard of John O’Hare. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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