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22 hours ago, Otis Blue said:

Fair point ... but of course this bizarre Hampden tradition has developed as it is because this is Scottish Football and as such (and generally with the odd exception) only two clubs ever compete at the sharp end of our main competitions - all other clubs are basically just cannon fodder.

Does this stuff not date back to the Roman Coliseum where they had the Christians at one end and the bears at the other end.  Or was it lions.....?

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The Terrible Trio.

Alfie Conn, Jimmy Wardhaugh, and Willie Bauld.

The famous threesome took Hearts from also rans to winners during the 1950's, including season 1957/58 when the Hearts won the league, scoring 132 goals in 34 games.

 

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On 22/03/2023 at 00:37, Specky Ginger said:

Saturday 7th May 1988.

Kilmarnock secure their First Division survival at the expense of East Fife and Dumbarton with a 1-0 win on the final day.

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Only to go down the following season by a single goal, I remember speaking to Tommy Tait when he was at Stirling Albion who was playing for Kilmarnock at that time, they had humped QOS by five or six thinking they had done enough to stay up, only to get in the dressing room to hear a last minute goal by Clyde in their match had sent Killie down, that must have been the very definition of a 'sair yin' 

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3 hours ago, Mr. X said:

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The Terrible Trio.

Alfie Conn, Jimmy Wardhaugh, and Willie Bauld.

The famous threesome took Hearts from also rans to winners during the 1950's, including season 1957/58 when the Hearts won the league, scoring 132 goals in 34 games.

 

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My late old man's favourite all time players. He went to the 1956 cup final when the Jambos pumped Sellick 3-1. Over 130,000 at that game ... decent crowd that. 🙄

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23 minutes ago, Flybhoy said:

... they had humped QOS by five or six thinking they had done enough to stay up, only to get in the dressing room to hear a last minute goal by Clyde in their match had sent Killie down, that must have been the very definition of a 'sair yin' 

Sad to relate but it was 6 they put past QOS at Palmy that day.

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3 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Only to go down the following season by a single goal, I remember speaking to Tommy Tait when he was at Stirling Albion who was playing for Kilmarnock at that time, they had humped QOS by five or six thinking they had done enough to stay up, only to get in the dressing room to hear a last minute goal by Clyde in their match had sent Killie down, that must have been the very definition of a 'sair yin' 

It was a fortunate set of results for both clubs that day which led a few Thistle fans to go "hmm..."

Funny thing is Killie bounced back, had 3 decades in the top flight and are back there again and a couple of cup wins and Clyde meanwhile, err, haven't. 

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5 hours ago, tamthebam said:

It was a fortunate set of results for both clubs that day which led a few Thistle fans to go "hmm..."

Funny thing is Killie bounced back, had 3 decades in the top flight and are back there again and a couple of cup wins and Clyde meanwhile, err, haven't. 

I'm obviously being thick here, but why would it be a fortunate set of results for both Clyde and Killie when Killie were relegated? And where did Thistle fit in to the equation?

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11 hours ago, Otis Blue said:

My late old man's favourite all time players. He went to the 1956 cup final when the Jambos pumped Sellick 3-1. Over 130,000 at that game ... decent crowd that. 🙄

Not if you were standing in it getting pished on.

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On 20/03/2023 at 13:26, O'Kelly Isley III said:

It was the only part of Hampden I was never in.  I very often stood in the North Enclosure below that stand with its pitch dark toilets two inches deep in pish.  There was a book written by Bob Crampsey called The Scottish Footballer in which he claimed these 'facilities' would have 'provoked comment amongst the less fastidious tribes of the Amazon'.

Brilliant from Crampsey ... his wry humour sadly missed these days.  Bob knew how to capture the essence of our mad, daft Scottish game.

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7 hours ago, kingjoey said:

I'm obviously being thick here, but why would it be a fortunate set of results for both Clyde and Killie when Killie were relegated? And where did Thistle fit in to the equation?

It was to do with goal difference- Killie had to win by X amount of goals which they did and Kille's game having reached the full time whistle I'm sure Clyde got a very, very late winner to keep themselves up. 

Thistle were safe and we drew 1-1 with Dunfermline that day (we went 1-0 up and they started to get a bit antsy as they needed a win or a draw to secure promotion) and we weren't bothered whether it was Killie or Clyde who went down it was just that the circumstances seemed a bit odd at the time. 

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14 hours ago, kingjoey said:

I'm obviously being thick here, but why would it be a fortunate set of results for both Clyde and Killie when Killie were relegated? And where did Thistle fit in to the equation?

From memory, Killie had to win by 5 more goals than Clyde did if they won, and we were 5 nil up at Palmerston while Clyde were drawing 0-0 with St Johnstone well into the 2nd half. 

Clyde then scored late on which meant we needed to score again, which we did to go up 6-0, so as it stood we were safe, however Clyde got a very dubious penalty (I didn't think it was a penalty as I was at Firhill that day) well into injury time, which they duly scored to relegate us. 

 

23 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

Only to go down the following season by a single goal, I remember speaking to Tommy Tait when he was at Stirling Albion who was playing for Kilmarnock at that time, they had humped QOS by five or six thinking they had done enough to stay up, only to get in the dressing room to hear a last minute goal by Clyde in their match had sent Killie down, that must have been the very definition of a 'sair yin' 

 

We signed Tommy Tait the next season so he didn't play for us as Palmerston.   In fact I am pretty sure he played for Clyde that day and celebrated as he came from Ayr. 

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Scotland v Germany at Ibrox, 1936. Scotland won 2-0 with Jimmy Delaney scoring two second half goals, his first for his country.

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Around 500 German supporters attended, visiting from a cruise ship which had been scheduled to visit Glasgow and Dublin to visit the Ibrox game and on against Ireland (a 5-2 loss). These 'fans' were, in fact, all Nazi Party members, Hitler being a keen advocate of rewarding loyalty with holidays. The party organised cruises as far as the Canary Islands, and also built the world's largest holiday camp, at Prora as part of the Nazi's Strength Through Joy policy.

Off topic, but if you are interested in massive concrete constructions, you should search for images of Prora, 'Hitler's Holiday Camp'.

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I think this one of Clyde’s Harry Haddock has been posted before but it got me wondering when Scotland wore this shirt. Not sure if they wore it more than once but they v Hungary in December 1954. Scotland lost 2-4 in front of 113,146, no bad for a dreich freezing Wednesday afternoon. Looks like the pitch had been covered in straw. This was the first of 6 caps for Haddock. another Clyde player, Tommy Ring, scored Scotland’s first goal.

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2 hours ago, Eednud said:

I think this one of Clyde’s Harry Haddock has been posted before but it got me wondering when Scotland wore this shirt. Not sure if they wore it more than once but they v Hungary in December 1954. Scotland lost 2-4 in front of 113,146, no bad for a dreich freezing Wednesday afternoon. Looks like the pitch had been covered in straw. This was the first of 6 caps for Haddock. another Clyde player, Tommy Ring, scored Scotland’s first goal.

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If you go to the Scottish Football Museum you can see John MacKenzie's shirt from that match on display. The shirts had white sleeves due to the game being broadcast live on black and white TV. Hungary turned up with their traditional dark red kits - and when a screen test was done, there was no way to tell the Scots and Hungarians apart from a distance. In the days where there was still a shortage of materials from the post-war days of rationing, Scotland didn't have the resources to find an all-white jersey so they had to get creative. Inspiration was taken from Hibernian/Arsenal and enough material was found to put white sleeves on the shirts. I think it's fair to say it was enough to tell them apart other than the different designs of numbers that both sides had on the back of their shirts. Scotland wouldn't wear white sleeves on a home shirt again until the mid-to-late 2010s when Adidas produced the design that meant one team had to change into their away kit when we went to Wembley or England came to Hampden.

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This a Dumbarton Harp team photo from season 1918/19.  Like several others the club was formed in 1894 on the back of the Irish diaspora to Scotland and they survived until dissolution in 1925.  They competed mostly in minor competitions but played in the inaugural season of the Scottish Third Division in 1923/24 finishing in 10th place, but folded due to financial circumstances the following season.

Their ground was at Meadow Park very close to Dumbarton Central railway station.  Nearby was a boating pond which was later infilled to provide playing fields for Dumbarton Academy which can be seen behind the trees in the top right of the photo.  Dumbarton Academy FP's have played there for decades, whilst across the road on Dumbarton Common St Patricks FP's have done likewise; both of these clubs have a strong pedigree in the Scottish amateur game.

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7 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said:

Sir Richard Staite.

Knighted for services to education (rector of Beeslack High School, Penicuik) and sport (scoring for Raith Rovers in a Scottish Cup quarter-final).

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Dick IIRC only scored 2 goals for the Rovers, one being in a QF against Kilmarnock (which I was at) at Starks Park, the strips in the photo don't reflect either side.

The photo is more likely to be from Dick's Clyde playing days.

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20 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said:

Sir Richard Staite.

Knighted for services to education (rector of Beeslack High School, Penicuik) and sport (scoring for Raith Rovers in a Scottish Cup quarter-final).

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Was at Jordan hill Teacher training in same year as him and he exceeded me in both careers. 

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20 minutes ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:

Dick IIRC only scored 2 goals for the Rovers, one being in a QF against Kilmarnock (which I was at) at Starks Park, the strips in the photo don't reflect either side.

The photo is more likely to be from Dick's Clyde playing days.

It does say "Dick Staite Clyde".

I seem to vaguely recall Staite playing for Clyde, one of those opposition players whose name seems to stick in the back of your memory.

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