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2 hours ago, tamthebam said:

Happier times for Dumbarton FC too (:whistle) as they win the Scottish Cup in 1883. 

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And we are now proudly well at the top of the 'how long since they last won the Scottish Cup' table.

Good chance we'll be there forever, unless teams that go defunct get removed from it.

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29 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Third from the left at the front seems to have over done it a bit.

Looks like the subject of memorial portraiture which was common practice around the 1880s.

That Scottish Cup Final programme from 1985 brought back memories, and I mistakenly thought that was the game where Thatcher turned up to lord over her experimental subjects, but that was '88.

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The red cards were issued by old health workers union the Confederation of Health Service Employees (CoHSE), and there was a long period of booing when Thatcher appeared as the teams emerged, accompanied by 'Maggie, Maggie, get tae f**k' chants, from both sets of fans.

It was another cup final where wee Jim was too cautious after going ahead, possibly even too cautious with his team selection, and after Kevin Gallacher had put United 1-0 up, he took off Mixu and replaced him with big John Clark, leaving Paul Sturrock warming the bench.

McAvennie scored two late on, the winner in the 90th minute, to give Celtic the cup.

Incoungrously, McAvennie has been invited to be guest speaker at United's Player of the Year function on Sunday. Finger on the pulse stuff from the commercial folk at Tannadice.

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1 hour ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

Looks like the subject of memorial portraiture which was common practice around the 1880s.

That Scottish Cup Final programme from 1985 brought back memories, and I mistakenly thought that was the game where Thatcher turned up to lord over her experimental subjects, but that was '88.

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The red cards were issued by old health workers union the Confederation of Health Service Employees (CoHSE), and there was a long period of booing when Thatcher appeared as the teams emerged, accompanied by 'Maggie, Maggie, get tae f**k' chants, from both sets of fans.

It was another cup final where wee Jim was too cautious after going ahead, possibly even too cautious with his team selection, and after Kevin Gallacher had put United 1-0 up, he took off Mixu and replaced him with big John Clark, leaving Paul Sturrock warming the bench.

McAvennie scored two late on, the winner in the 90th minute, to give Celtic the cup.

Incoungrously, McAvennie has been invited to be guest speaker at United's Player of the Year function on Sunday. Finger on the pulse stuff from the commercial folk at Tannadice.

Love the anti-Thatcher stuff 😁😁😁

 

On the ‘88 final…just finished McLean’s autobiography (and you can tell he DEFINITELY wrote it himself .. a lot of “as far as I’m concerned” ‘s and “I’m not bothered about all that” ‘s 😂😂

 

Anyway, it was written just after the ‘87 finals and the negativity about that being his last chance and his belief that he’d never be going to Hampden for a cup final again was quite depressing.
I’m thinking poor c**t, you’ve got another two goes at it after this. What must he have been like after Motherwell in ‘91 😬

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Queen's Park v Rangers, top flight programme from season 1956/57, one of @HibeeJibee's fabled Glasgow Monday games. Queen's finished a creditable 13th that season (out of 18), with 29 points, 5 clear of 17th placed Dunfermline, although they crashed and burned the following season, finishing bottom with only 9 points, 19 off safety. The match finished Queen's Park 4 Rangers 6, in front of nearly 34,000 fans.

Image 1 - QUEEN'S PARK  V  RANGERS  ( MON 22ND APRIL 1957 )

Image 2 - QUEEN'S PARK  V  RANGERS  ( MON 22ND APRIL 1957 )

Interesting team lines...Image 3 - QUEEN'S PARK  V  RANGERS  ( MON 22ND APRIL 1957 )

Image 4 - QUEEN'S PARK  V  RANGERS  ( MON 22ND APRIL 1957 )

Image 5 - QUEEN'S PARK  V  RANGERS  ( MON 22ND APRIL 1957 )

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59 minutes ago, Luddite said:

Love the anti-Thatcher stuff 😁😁😁

 

On the ‘88 final…just finished McLean’s autobiography (and you can tell he DEFINITELY wrote it himself .. a lot of “as far as I’m concerned” ‘s and “I’m not bothered about all that” ‘s 😂😂

 

Anyway, it was written just after the ‘87 finals and the negativity about that being his last chance and his belief that he’d never be going to Hampden for a cup final again was quite depressing.
I’m thinking poor c**t, you’ve got another two goes at it after this. What must he have been like after Motherwell in ‘91 😬

I was at all six losses prior to '94, when Golac won it: wee Jim was a bit too cautious in the finals generally, but I think United and McLean were also quite unlucky in more than a couple. Won't go into that here!

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1 minute ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

The transport arrangements for the Killie away match must have had some fans confused, maybe left behind if the bus departed at 1:30 when they'd read that buses 'will leave Cochrane Street at 1:45pm.'

There appear to be two different supporters clubs, these travel arrangements crop up in various programmes, and they often left at different times, usually that quarter of an hour between them. At least, that's what I always took out of reading the programmes, that there were two clubs running buses.

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2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

There appear to be two different supporters clubs, these travel arrangements crop up in various programmes, and they often left at different times, usually that quarter of an hour between them. At least, that's what I always took out of reading the programmes, that there were two clubs running buses.

Ah, that explains things. Wonder what club Bob Crampsey was in?

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On 08/05/2022 at 08:50, Jacksgranda said:

Happier times for Cowdenbeath, who, having been relegated from Division One the previous season, were making a determined bid for a quick return, and at this stage of the season sat top of the Second Division, two points ahead of St Mirren, who had two games in hand, though. Cowden won 6-0, which got them back on track after dropping 3 points in their previous two games.

Ultimately, Cowdenbeath finished fifth, four points off the promoted pair, Dumbarton and Arbroath. 2-1 and 2-0 defeats to them (Sons away, Red Lichties at home), made the difference. Small margins.

Image 2 - Cowdenbeath HOME programmes 1970's 1980's

The season before that the league cup semi finalists were Cowdenbeath,  Dumbarton, Celtic and Rangers. The draw was done in secret.

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I'm informed it's ten years since I stood in Hazlehead Park taking photos of a womens game (Dee Ladies 1-5 Dee Vale Ladies), with one of the teams featuring an Amy Winehouse hair-a-like and an actual rottweiler in the dugout, the other with Finding Nemo socks and actual ability. 

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The above challenge not even getting the assailant a talking to, IIRC.

Not a particularly noteworthy addition to anything, other than the fact it's from an era when the womens game was still mainly a park affair and struggling in the background. Then, the idea that Aberdeen/Rangers/etc would end up playing at the main stadium of the mens teams would have been nonsensical at a time when teams seemed to appear on a season-by-season basis. Then-three times SWFL champions Glasgow City (back in 2010) showed up in Aberdeen with internationals in the side and were farmed out to play (hammer) the Donettes on some junior pitch I can't with any certainty identify from the photos alone. Since then, times have changed; cracks have appeared in the triumverate of Glasgow City, Hibs and Celtic, and SPFL clubs are taking it seriously (or more seriously, which wasn't hard, relatively). Aberdeen had a league of a half dozen and more sides over the space of a few years, including actual Aberdeen and a rake of other sides all of which have since been consumed by the main club in the city after reorganisation in 2018. 

Carry on. 

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2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

There appear to be two different supporters clubs, these travel arrangements crop up in various programmes, and they often left at different times, usually that quarter of an hour between them. At least, that's what I always took out of reading the programmes, that there were two clubs running buses.

I have a few QP programmes from 1948 through to 1951 and the same two supporters clubs were operating back then, certainly from 1950 onwards, each holding its own social events and organising their own transport with buses leaving at different times. The Supporter's Association (which still exists today) seems to have been a South Side based organisation with events in venues like the Dixon Hall while the Supporters' Club (Central) seesm to have catered for fans from other parts of the city with events being held in the City Centre. I hadn't noticed this until you pointed it out, Jacksgranda!

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2 minutes ago, Spidersmad said:

I have a few QP programmes from 1948 through to 1951 and the same two supporters clubs were operating back then, certainly from 1950 onwards, each holding its own social events and organising their own transport with buses leaving at different times. The Supporter's Association (which still exists today) seems to have been a South Side based organisation with events in venues like the Dixon Hall while the Supporters' Club (Central) seesm to have catered for fans from other parts of the city with events being held in the City Centre. I hadn't noticed this until you pointed it out, Jacksgranda!

I got the impression the two supporters clubs didn't get on, but I'm probably reading too much between the lines and putting 2 + 2 together and making 5.

As you say, catered for fans from different parts of the city (which had a population nearly 30% higher than what it is now, and the post war football attendance boom was still in full flow).

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2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

I got the impression the two supporters clubs didn't get on, but I'm probably reading too much between the lines and putting 2 + 2 together and making 5.

As you say, catered for fans from different parts of the city (which had a population nearly 30% higher than what it is now, and the post war football attendance boom was still in full flow).

I wasn't around at the time, or rather I was a toddler. It must have been some game as Queen's were 4-1 up by the 40th minute despite having missed a penalty through Bertie Cromar. Hunter Devine bagged a hat trick. Johnny Hubbard scored two for Rangers before halftime to take it to 4-3. Second half goals from Max Murray, Billy Simpson and Alex Scott swept Queen's aside unfortunately.

Teams:

QP

Crampsey; Harnett, Hastie; Cromar, Robb, Glen; Herd, Omand, McEwan, Devine, Heron.

Rangers

Niven; Shearer, Caldow; McColl, Young, Davis; Scott, Simpson, Murray, Baird, Hubbard.

Scorers for QP - Herd (14); Devine (18, 38, 40). For Rangers - Murray (19, 60); Hubbard (40, 43); Simpson (78); Scott (88).

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