Luddite Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: It looks pretty empty in the footage. Despite the names on show - including 3x Portuguesers and 1x Benfica man - I guess the pouring rain on a January evening may have put off the Lisbon locals. There was a full card of EPL games and some Scottish matches that midweek which probably precluded anybody being selected. Paul Ince and Gordon Durie played for Europe in December of that year. Paul Lambert played for the World the following August. Lambert at Dortmund I assume? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 28/01/2022 at 14:40, HibeeJibee said: Scotland's abortive attempt at a "Charity Shield" / "Supercup": On 28/01/2022 at 14:56, Luddite said: How many years did this run? Just the once? Yeh just the once. Basically the whole idea seems to have gone off half-cocked. Crowd was 10,289 but that was poor by early 1950s standards. It was played on Monday 22nd September 1952 at Firhill - hardly the most glamorous of Glasgow venues; at 6pm as there were no floodlights - hardly the best of times to attract a crowd of Glasgow locals nevermind any travelling support. Hibs were missing Paterson, Reilly and Ormond - and Motherwell were missing Humphries - as they were off with the Scottish League, at a jubilee inter-league international with the Welsh League in Cardiff. I've no idea if it affected the crowd, but it had also been confirmed beforehand that all proceeds would go to the Glasgow police benevolent fund, after a policeman was shot dead and another injured by a fugitive bank clerk a couple of weeks prior... So it wasn't like several different charities would be benefiting. Worse still the clubs were actually listed to meet each other in the league at Fir Park only 5 days later, so any sense of "bragging rights" was about to be settled anyway. Accordingly this first edition of the Lord Provost of Glasgow's Charity Cup finished Motherwell 5-1 Hibs... and also proved the last edition. Incidentally the scoreline 5 days later was Motherwell 3-7 Hibs, which perhaps suggests the missing players had considerable influence, or Hibs were treating it more seriously. Perhaps the ideas was also simply too late on the scene. There was already the Allison Trophy (Edinburgh v invited English club), played on the opening Saturday of the season, plus the long-established Glasgow Charity Cup played at the end of the season by the 6 major clubs. Interestingly enough Dundee and Aberdeen were meeting at Dens the same night, in another abortive tournament: the Inter-City Cup. It was played between the clubs over 2 legs for a couple of years in early 1950s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, Piquet said: My First Cousin, who lives in Sheffield and whose two sons are Wednesday Fans, assures me it's the City Ground. Mind you, the state of the pitch, as mentioned in the report, would indicate that that photo is from Hillsborough. I'll stick with the cousin's answer, though. I got it wrong earlier, it's definitely Hillsborough. The first game was especially wild, with Manchester United by far the worse aggressors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: 25 years ago today... Wednesday 29th January 1997 Intercontinental international Europe 1-2 Africa at Estadio da Luz, Lisbon 8,000 Tenuous link with Scottish football... but alternative was an Army Cadet international England v Northern Ireland from 1949. Europe's star players were humbled by their African visitors, in a rain-drenched all-star match which preceded the inaugural Meridian Cup for youth teams. Europe's goalscorer Vincent Guerin joined Hearts from PSG the following year, after a doping scandal. Ronald and Frank de Boer subsequently played for Rangers. European co-manager Berti Vogts led Scotland to Euro 2004 playoffs. I'm presuming I haven't lost the plot and that really is the wrong picture next to Pavel Nedved. I know it was a while ago, but he can't have changed his looks that much. Edited January 30, 2022 by Dirty Sanchez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddite Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Programme for The New Firm in NASL: Dundee United (Dallas Tornado) vs Aberdeen (Washington Whips) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddite Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Yeh just the once. Basically the whole idea seems to have gone off half-cocked. Crowd was 10,289 but that was poor by early 1950s standards. It was played on Monday 22nd September 1952 at Firhill - hardly the most glamorous of Glasgow venues; at 6pm as there were no floodlights - hardly the best of times to attract a crowd of Glasgow locals nevermind any travelling support. Hibs were missing Paterson, Reilly and Ormond - and Motherwell were missing Humphries - as they were off with the Scottish League, at a jubilee inter-league international with the Welsh League in Cardiff. I've no idea if it affected the crowd, but it had also been confirmed beforehand that all proceeds would go to the Glasgow police benevolent fund, after a policeman was shot dead and another injured by a fugitive bank clerk a couple of weeks prior... So it wasn't like several different charities would be benefiting. Worse still the clubs were actually listed to meet each other in the league at Fir Park only 5 days later, so any sense of "bragging rights" was about to be settled anyway. Accordingly this first edition of the Lord Provost of Glasgow's Charity Cup finished Motherwell 5-1 Hibs... and also proved the last edition. Incidentally the scoreline 5 days later was Motherwell 3-7 Hibs, which perhaps suggests the missing players had considerable influence, or Hibs were treating it more seriously. Perhaps the ideas was also simply too late on the scene. There was already the Allison Trophy (Edinburgh v invited English club), played on the opening Saturday of the season, plus the long-established Glasgow Charity Cup played at the end of the season by the 6 major clubs. Interestingly enough Dundee and Aberdeen were meeting at Dens the same night, in another abortive tournament: the Inter-City Cup. It was played between the clubs over 2 legs for a couple of years in early 1950s. Quality post mate. Great info 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 61 years ago today... Monday 30th January 1961 Representative international Scotland 4-1 Scottish League at Celtic Park, Glasgow 24,000 Starting in 1958 and ending in 1965 an annual challenge match was played between Scotland and the Scottish League. As well as providing an interesting spectacle for fans... especially helping manifest that perennial debate on the merits of "Anglos" against domestic-based players... it served as a useful trial before the spring internationals. This was the only time Parkhead hosted. On this occasion just a pair of "Anglos" featured - Dave Mackay of Spurs plus David Herd of Arsenal. It was the Scottish League who took an early lead through McCann of Motherwell but then Brand of Rangers equalised before half-time. Hilley of Third Lanark and a Herd brace then secured comfortable victory for the national team. While useful for the Scottish League - they beat the Football League 3-2 in March - it proved of little avail for Scotland, who come April crashed 9-3 at Wembley in the Home Nations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RandomGuy. Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, scotfree said: Bit wild for someone of my age, who's regularly told players in the 80s were wild men who turned up to games pished with fags hanging out their mouth, to read these answers. Hoping he was an accountant FFS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: 61 years ago today... Monday 30th January 1961 Representative international Scotland 4-1 Scottish League at Celtic Park, Glasgow 24,000 Starting in 1958 and ending in 1965 an annual challenge match was played between Scotland and the Scottish League. As well as providing an interesting spectacle for fans... especially helping manifest that perennial debate on the merits of "Anglos" against domestic-based players... it served as a useful trial before the spring internationals. This was the only time Parkhead hosted. On this occasion just a pair of "Anglos" featured - Dave Mackay of Spurs plus David Herd of Arsenal. It was the Scottish League who took an early lead through McCann of Motherwell but then Brand of Rangers equalised before half-time. Hilley of Third Lanark and a Herd brace then secured comfortable victory for the national team. While useful for the Scottish League - they beat the Football League 3-2 in March - it proved of little avail for Scotland, who come April crashed 9-3 at Wembley in the Home Nations. Andy Kerr (Kilmarnock) in his Partick Thistle strip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 63 years ago today... Saturday 31st January 1959 SFL Division One St Mirren P-P Partick Thistle at Love Street, Paisley postponed for frost With most clubs occupied playing Scottish Cup R1 ties - St Mirren's plan to hansel their new floodlights in a league game v Partick were scuppered by conditions. They were finally unveiled a fortnight later in R2 against Peebles Rovers - moved to the Friday night, the Borderers capitulated 10-0. Edited January 31, 2022 by HibeeJibee 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 64 years ago today... Saturday 1st February 1958 Scottish Cup, First Round Stranraer 6-2 Eyemouth United at Stair Park, Stranraer 2,000 This was a remarkable example of the "game of two halves". Beginning the day 2nd-bottom of Division Two the hosts woes were exacerbated when McArthur gave the Fishermen, hailing from the EOS League, an early lead which they carried into HT. However by 53mins it was 3-1 then ultimately finished 6-2. McArthur scored again while the homesters half-dozen were a Phillips brace, McCutcheon, McKnight, Watt and Small. Borders football was still a cup force in these days. Chirnside United (losing 4-0 at home to Third Lanark) and Peebles Rovers (losing 4-0 at Raith) were also playing in the cup that day... Vale of Leithen had a bye to R2 (lost 7-0 at Kilmarnock - while Stranraer were themself hammered 7-0 at Queen of the South). Eyemouth reached Scottish Cup QFs in 1959-60 but ceded their SFA membership in 1968. After a long East of Scotland League career they folded last year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: 64 years ago today... Saturday 1st February 1958 Scottish Cup, First Round Stranraer 6-2 Eyemouth United at Stair Park, Stranraer 2,000 This was a remarkable example of the "game of two halves". Beginning the day 2nd-bottom of Division Two the hosts woes were exacerbated when McArthur gave the Fishermen, hailing from the EOS League, an early lead which they carried into HT. However by 53mins it was 3-1 then ultimately finished 6-2. McArthur scored again while the homesters half-dozen were a Phillips brace, McCutcheon, McKnight, Watt and Small. Borders football was still a cup force in these days. Chirnside United (losing 4-0 at home to Third Lanark) and Peebles Rovers (losing 4-0 at Raith) were also playing in the cup that day... Vale of Leithen had a bye to R2 (lost 7-0 at Kilmarnock - while Stranraer were themself hammered 7-0 at Queen of the South). Eyemouth reached Scottish Cup QFs in 1959-60 but ceded their SFA membership in 1968. After a long East of Scotland League career they folded last year. They've been playing in the Borders League, I have seen photographic proof! Edited February 1, 2022 by tamthebam . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, tamthebam said: They've been playing in the Borders League, I have seen photographic proof! "Several young boys are being groomed by half a dozen or so First League players" is a sentence that hasn't aged well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 31/01/2022 at 23:52, HibeeJibee said: 63 years ago today... Saturday 31st January 1959 SFL Division One St Mirren P-P Partick Thistle at Love Street, Paisley postponed for frost With most clubs occupied playing Scottish Cup R1 ties - St Mirren's plan to hansel their new floodlights in a league game v Partick were scuppered by conditions. They were finally unveiled a fortnight later in R2 against Peebles Rovers - moved to the Friday night, the Borderers capitulated 10-0. Sadly no programme was issued for the game v Peebles which, as a first round tie, was the stepping stone to us winning the cup that season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Also, Stevenson's Aerated Waters is the same company which lost the case upon which all negligence laws are based. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donoghue_v_Stevenson 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 28 years ago today... Wednesday 2nd February 1994 B international Wales B 2-1 Scotland B at the Racecourse Ground, Wrexham 3,541 Craig Brown took charge of his first match since becoming Scotland manager, but his side fell to a disappointing defeat, in what was surprisingly the first-ever meeting with Wales at B level. Up front a strike partnership of Scott Booth and Eoin Jess, supported by Don Hutchison and Billy McKinlay, were unable to achieve much; and it was defender Chris McCart who headed the Scots consolation from a corner. John Toshack was beginning an ill-fated attempt to manage Wales alongside Real Sociedad. Welsh goals came from Iwan Roberts and Mark Pembridge. Of the starting XI only David Robertson, Paul Telfer, Billy McKinlay, Don Hutchison, Scott Booth and Eoin Jess went on to achieve full caps and just the latter quartet became established squad members. (Chris McCart also once played for Scotland against SFL). Of the substitutes only Scotland Gemmill and Christian Dailly did so; of unusued bench only bit-part Paul Bernard. Edited February 2, 2022 by HibeeJibee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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