Willie adie Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 17:03, Flybhoy said: UEFA club rankings in 1984 The rankings from 1980-89 have Dundee United as Scotland sole representative in the top 10. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) Gento - considered perhaps the greatest Spanish footballer ever and still only man to win the European Cup/CL on 6 occasions - died today. By my reckoning he played in Scotland just 6 times: Wednesday 8th May 1957 World Cup Qualifier Scotland 4-2 Spain Wednesday 18th May 1960 European Cup Final Real Madrid 7-3 Eintracht Frankfurt Monday 10th September 1962 Blue & White Trophy (Fundraiser for World Jewish Organisation) Celtic 1-3 Real Madrid Wednesday 25th September 1963 Rangers 0-1 Real Madrid European Cup, Preliminary Round, First Leg Wednesday 7th October 1964 Friendly Hibernian 2-0 Real Madrid Wednesday 17th November 1965 European Cup, First Round, First Leg Kilmarnock 2-2 Real Madrid Edited January 18, 2022 by HibeeJibee 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Celtic 2 Ajax 2 from 1982, Celtic won the second leg 2-1 in Amsterdam Left to right, Denmark midfielder Soren Lerby who was superb at the 1986 World Cup in Mexico, David Moyes, Tommy Burns, Johan Cruyff and Gerald Vanenberg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 17:03, Flybhoy said: UEFA club rankings in 1984 Who were the European Super Cup holders ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Bartender Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Conspiracy theory! Victimisation. No surprise to see a controversial Orangeman refereeing decision against them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Offside Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 hours ago, House Bartender said: Conspiracy theory! Victimisation. No surprise to see a controversial Orangeman refereeing decision against them. Maybe it was because Byrne wasn't named in the team therefore shouldn't have been on the pitch? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 19/01/2022 at 15:43, House Bartender said: Conspiracy theory! Victimisation. No surprise to see a controversial Orangeman refereeing decision against them. Great to see the occasional 'and' used to separate names in the team line ups rather than commas all the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, Northboy said: Great to see the occasional 'and' used to separate names in the team line ups rather than commas all the way. Was it maybe to indicate formation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Theyellowbox said: Was it maybe to indicate formation? Correct... traditional 2-3-5. Goalkeeper; right-back and left-back; right-half, centre-half and left-half; right-winger, inside-right, centre-forward, inside-left and left-winger. #1; #2 and #3; #4, #5 and #6; #7, #8, #9, #10 and #11. (Hence why - rather confusingly - in 4-4-2 right-back wears #2, left-back #3, centre-backs #4 & #5, centre-mids #6 & #8, right-mid #7, big striker #9, little striker #10, left-mid #11. Quite why #8 became midfield and not #10 and why #4 became defence and not #6: presumably just lower number?). Edited January 20, 2022 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piquet Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 When I played on a team in College, (1970s), we played 4-3-3. The back four were 2, 4, 5, and 3, the Midfield was 6, 7 and 8 and we had 10, 9 and 11 upfront Mind you, we were Engineering Students. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Northboy said: Great to see the occasional 'and' used to separate names in the team line ups rather than commas all the way. 3 hours ago, Theyellowbox said: Was it maybe to indicate formation? 2 -3-5 (forwards: rw pairing, cf, lw pairing). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I still do the slightly* more modern version of that - using a semicolon - if I'm texting my mates the starting XI and they're not at the game. e.g. Fon Williams; Comrie, Donaldson, Connolly, Edwards; Lawless, Allan, Pybus, Dow; McCann, O'Hara. * Probably from the early 60s. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Correct... traditional 2-3-5. Goalkeeper; right-back and left-back; right-half, centre-half and left-half; right-winger, inside-right, centre-forward, inside-left and left-winger. #1; #2 and #3; #4, #5 and #6; #7, #8, #9, #10 and #11. (Hence why - rather confusingly - in 4-4-2 right-back wears #2, left-back #3, centre-backs #4 & #5, centre-mids #6 & #8, right-mid #7, big striker #9, little striker #10, left-mid #11. Quite why #8 became midfield and not #10 and why #4 became defence and not #6: presumably just lower number?).At one point 6 was a defender and 4 was a deep lying midfielder. It’s in the book “inverting the pyramid” but can’t remember the exact explanation for it all. ETA: “the FA made shirt numbering compulsory in 1939, they ignored later developments and stipulated that the right-back must wear 2, the left-back 3, right-half 4, the centre-half 5, the left-half 6, the right-winger 7, the inside-right 8, the centre-forward 9, the inside-left 10 and the left-winger 11” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 hours ago, buchan30 said: At one point 6 was a defender and 4 was a deep lying midfielder Was that not just an English thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 No, sure I've seen it here too. Neil Simpson for the Dons? In fact, didn't Oldco sometimes have 5 in central midfield? I'm positive Souness and Wilkins wore that on occasion in that position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Here's Aberdeen goalkeeper Bobby Clark wearing '5', if that helps. Numbers began to mean very little at some point in the 'eighties, although the picture above was, I think, from the late 'sixties, when Bobby played for the reserves as a defender a few times, also coming on at centre half in a first team match at Ibrox. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Here's Aberdeen goalkeeper Bobby Clark wearing '5', if that helps. Numbers began to mean very little at some point in the 'eighties, although the picture above was, I think, from the late 'sixties, when Bobby played for the reserves as a defender a few times, also coming on at centre half in a first team match at Ibrox. A man of many talents indeed. And yet he still put his jersey on back to front 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 13 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: I still do the slightly* more modern version of that - using a semicolon - if I'm texting my mates the starting XI and they're not at the game. e.g. Fon Williams; Comrie, Donaldson, Connolly, Edwards; Lawless, Allan, Pybus, Dow; McCann, O'Hara. * Probably from the early 60s. W@nk, W@nk; Good Guy; W@nk Yup, that works for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 14:11, Ranaldo Bairn said: No, sure I've seen it here too. Neil Simpson for the Dons? In fact, didn't Oldco sometimes have 5 in central midfield? I'm positive Souness and Wilkins wore that on occasion in that position. Which I think comes from the English lleagues? The old boys on here will know.....open forum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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